Re: [Computerbank] Re: What happened at the AGM?

[Penni Diffey <moose@artificial-stupidity.net>]

Hi Shaun

I'm quite hurt by that I am not like that

Pen



On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:33 pm, Shaun Branden wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 05:43:25PM +1100, Patricia Fraser wrote:
> > Hi Tim (long time no see!) & all,
> >
> > > I still find it surprising (frankly) that there was nothing on the
> > > lists about the AGM until an interested (semi) outsider who follows CB
> > > ask what happened.
> >
> > Do you? I don't. Most operational stuff - announcements of meetings,
> > advance meeting agendas, notices of reports &c so people can read them
> > ahead of time, notices that minutes are up, that kind of thing - doesn't
> > seem to have been going up on the lists for quite some time. It's not how
> > I'd personally like it to be, but it's the way it seems to have
> > developed... the lists faded in importance and informativeness from the
> > day CBV moved into Rosslyn St.
>
> The level of communication needs to change dramatically. I have had some
> mail server issues, sut am still trying to find the mail asking for
> nominations in the archives.
>
> 5 of the committee members are based in 2 house holds, so I guess they
> just have their private conversations and do as they please.
>
> > I think it's been a mistake, because communication between us all is
> > very, very important - and not everyone we need uses irc, or even has
> > regular access to the net...
>
> I am on irc quite a bit and there is not much informations there either.
>
> > > Are we going to have an announcement from the Prez?
> > >
> > > Are we going to have a 'serious' protest from anyone?
> >
> > The most serious protest, and the most dangerous to this very special
> > organisation, is the silent walkout of volunteers and members who no
> > longer find/found Computerbank a place where there offerings are welcome.
> > It's not about legality, it's about a perceived lack of community; to
> > some of us, it has felt very possible to be "unsuitable" for quite a
> > while. I think this is a sad thing; Computerbank began, and ran for quite
> > a long time as the most inclusive, welcoming organisation I've ever come
> > across. I think that is all but gone in the Vic part of the organisation,
> > and I'd love to see us doing some real work to bring that back;
>
> Don't forget about the members who will leave. I used to be proud
> to be associated with Computerbank, but now feel like leaving as I don't
> like how it is being run.
>
> > > This organisation used to be one of the most transparent I knew of -
> > > discussions should be taking place on the mailing list.
> >
> > I agree; and I think the transparency grew from the warmth, the trust and
> > the inclusiveness of the group; a real sense that we needed everyone who
> > was willing to help, no matter what offerings they brought. And there was
> > a real sense that it was up to us as a group to encourage each other and
> > value each others' contributions.
> >
> > It's sad that we might even have to think about enforcing as a policy
> > what used to happen from people's generosity of spirit...
> >
> > > At the moment it seems like several core groups are infighting, simply
> > > presuming everyone who 'matters' knows what is going on.
> >
> > I think everyone is afraid, and hurt, and upset; and why not? the lovely
> > thing we built is fracturing, and it's not so lovely any more.
> >
> > We desperately need to re-find our real reason for being here at all -
> > otherwise, many of us are inclined to pack up and take our gifts
> > elsewhere...
>
> Well said.
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