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Re: [Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately

Hi Ian 

We have been talking about having a dedicated training day were we spend the 
day just training volunters in installations, hardware testing, etc. We were 
thinking of a Sunday as Saturday has the training class and recipients 
picking up machines. Sunday would be good as there would be no distractions 
due to training, or support calls.

We have been trying to get detailed documentation together as far as the tech 
side of things go which will make it a lot easier for new volunters to work 
there way through installations and hardware testing. There are also efforts 
underway regarding documentation for recipients. If anyone is interested in 
getting involved in that sort of thing it would be really helpful as that is 
becoming more of an issue as more and more people get computers. The training 
day might be good for discussion of that side of things as well. Just a 

If people  are interested I would be happy to have a training day next Sunday 
which is the 16th. If there are other times that people would prefer please 
let me know. I was thinking of starting at 10 and staying till 6 pm so people 
would be able to come in at any time during the day.

If anyone is interested please let me know.

Thanks for posting that message to Bruce it is good to see some activity on 
the list. 

John Habermann 

On Friday 07 September 2001 09:35 am, Ian wrote:
> Greetings folks
> Who's this guy "to but in here" you're probably asking .
> And maybe your right  but I thought id offer  my 10 cents
> worth just in case
> your interested.
> I  came in and joined CB  a few months back
> I was impressed with the philosophy and the possibilities
> that could be achieved by you guys and felt inspired to
> join in the cause
> And I  watch with great interest.
>  As  CB  develops from a  bright idea in the mind of its
> visionary into an
> Invaluable  mechanism for building the "bridge between the
> have's and have not's"
> And  all involved  are to be congratulated on the results
> you've been able to achieve.
> having said that as you'll no doubt agree theirs  yet a
> long way to go.
> While I hesitate to criticise
> It took me a good  90mins  on public transport each way to
> attend CB in west Melbourne
> which I did  for a few weeks but each time I arrived there
> I found the days planned activities
> that had each time been cancelled postponed or delayed or
> altered  to the Point where I felt
> my day had been wasted.
> Again id stress that I'm in no way intending to  belittle
> the efforts of any one here but
> Not to put to finer Point on it :
> (The CB  would benefit greatly from a much firmer
>  timetable
> With regard to specific  scheduled events such as induction
> & training sessions. )
> I personally felt that  it was assumed that because I was a
> volunteer I had time to just waste
> and having spend hours in transit in the hopes that what I
> expected to occur when I arrived might
> transpire. Which was more often was not the case.
> Under  such circumstances  Enthusiasm quickly  wanes and
> while I understand the benefits of flexibility  within an
> org.
> there's a  balance that needs  to be met .
> Maybe  firmer  Time scheduling, Regular planned  Events,
>  and
> Dedicated  training sessions  for us  "wet behind the ears
> volunteers"
>  will help
> just a thought
> keep up the great work folks .
> regards
> Ian J bell
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John Habermann [SMTP:habbers@tpg.com.au]
> Sent:	Friday, September 07, 2001 1:06 AM
> To:	Don Cameron; Terry Collins
> Cc:	computerbank@lists.linux.org.au
> Subject:	Re: [Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately
> Just wondering if Sally or anyone who knows the details
> could explain just
> why she has given up on computerbank.
> Was she unable to get in touch with anyone? Were
> commitments made and then
> not acted upon? Did she get know reponse?
> If we have an idea of just what the problem is we might be
> able to improve
> things.
> From the melbourne point of view I know things are quite
> hectic and immediate
> concerns such as training next days system builds and
> answering support calls
> suck up most of the time.
> John Habermann
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 04:13 pm, Don Cameron wrote:
> > Ahhh,
> >
> > Sorry for diving in here, but Sally is a WA Community
> Development
> > Practitioner highly regarded throughout Australia for her
> work - Sally
> > approached CB on the recommendations of Bruce, myself,
> and others involved
> > in Australian rural revitalisation efforts - She is very
> real, very well
> > respected both within the community framework and by
> Governments of all
> > persuasions, and is a person of the highest character.
> >
> > Don Cameron
> >
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terry Collins" <terryc@woa.com.au>
> > To: "Bruce McCubbery" <brucemcc@melbpc.org.au>
> > Cc: <computerbank@lists.linux.org.au>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately
> >
> > > Do we really want the Sally's of this world
> > > And is Sally for real or just a scam merchant pushing
> another project or
> > > private interest.
> >
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