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Re: gEDA-user: personal component library frustration-HELP/suggestions please?
Thank you Stephen.
When you say 'others rely on them'..Why do they rely on them? I get
the feeling that there is some feature or property that some ppl find
important enough to use them (over the other libraries).
My first attempt at creating symbols is with DJboxsym. It was
successful but the second two bullet points at the website made for
more questions without answers that could possibly throw up roadblocks
further down the road:
1. symbols are in my "compromise' format......ummmm HOW compromised?
What is compromised?
2. No DRC support (use my sym2/csv2sym programs for that). What the
heck is DRC (not spelled out anywhere - first rule in writing a
document that I learned in grade school was ALWAYS spell out an acronym
the first time it is used), and now I need another special program that
does what??? And how does it alter the route to attaining my goal??
As an enduser, I personally don't care if it is written in perl,
python, pascal, smalltalk, lisp, algol68 or Cray Fortran. As a
developer, it may be important.
As a result, thinking that there is something 'non-native' in this
approach, I looked for others.
BTW, the link does not work - Wireshark informs me that the route is
established but does not respond..time out error.
-John
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Stephen Ecob
<[1]silicon.on.inspiration@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi John,
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:24 AM, John Hudak <[2]jjhudak@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> "I always add the options "skip-m4" and "use-files" because I don't
> want any of the M4 generated footprints, ever. But this may be due
> to personal prejudice."
> This brings up another issue I am having....As a neophyte to this
tool
> set (but not to EDA tools in general), what is the deal with m4
> files? I've read through a lot of stuff in this area, dating from
> 2003 through now, and I still don't know if m4 files are good/bad?
to
> be used/avoided?
I'd guess the majority of the community don't use it, but there are
certainly some who rely on it.
> I am attempting to put a EDA workbench together in a reasonably
> integrated way. Part of this is to create a (local) big symbol
library
> so that it can be used and managed. What I don't want to do is
grab
> component and footprint libraries that are old, brittle, or cause
> gschem or PCB to die.
> From my perspective, all of the inconsistent information is very
> confusing. Quite simply, where is the 'best' symbol and footprint
> library and the best way to create compatible symbols and
footprints?
Sorry, there is no agreed 'best' way. Various members of the
community use the tools in widely varying ways. The tools are
flexible enough to work well for for applications ranging from AC
power wiring looms to ASIC layout.
> (After going through 3 different methods of generating symbols, it
> seems that creating one graphically within gschem is the one least
> laden with holes...true?)
I sometimes use that method, but my current work is with FPGAs and I
find the best way for making the symbols I need is DJboxsym:
[3]http://vivara.net/cgi-bin/djboxsym.cgi
This tool is very convenient for my FPGA work, but when I'm working
with BJTs, FETs, diodes and triacs I use the graphical route.
Stephen Ecob
Silicon On Inspiration
Sydney Australia
[4]www.sioi.com.au
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References
1. mailto:silicon.on.inspiration@xxxxxxxxx
2. mailto:jjhudak@xxxxxxxxx
3. http://vivara.net/cgi-bin/djboxsym.cgi
4. http://www.sioi.com.au/
5. mailto:geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
6. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
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