Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

[Dan McMahill <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This was a response to your assertion that kjwaves works "out of the 
box" with no extra dependencies.  Clearly that is not true.  On 5 
systems, some of which have a java install to support some tools which 
use java, none were sufficient to run kjwaves.  So gwave or kjwaves, 
either one, there are dependency requirements to deal with.  Forget the 
license, if I want to run kjwaves I have to add dependencies.  I also 
have to hope that the one java kjwaves works with also works on my 
particular computer.  Am I an open source zealot for saying that?  No, 
I'm just saying I have a computer (my alpha), it works for me, having to 
to purchase a different machine so I can run one particular version of 
java to load a tool just isn't that appealing especially when tools like 
gwave do work "out of the box" quite easily on my system.

On some of the other machines I have access to which probably can run 
the required version of java, I'm not at liberty to install stuff 
outside of my home directory.  Maybe java will install easily as a 
non-root user, maybe not.  But the real point is, you made a rather bold 
claim about kjwaves which I think just isn't true in practice.  The 
bottom line is kjwaves isn't as portable as some other tools because it 
depends on something which is not as widely ported.

KURT PETERS wrote:
> Dan,
>   All that is required in JRE 1.5 or higher...  gjc is not JRE 1.5 or 
> higher, 1.4.2 is not JRE 1.5 or higher.  The funny thing is that a 
> "dependency" of KJWaves is jfreechart which is releases under, guess what, 
> LGPL -- seems like others can accept "dependence" on a single distributer of 
> the JRE, why can't you?
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:43:31 -0500
> From: Dan McMahill <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave
> To: gEDA user mailing list <geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4750BC43.7040305@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> KURT PETERS wrote:
>> There are no dependency problems.    This is, once again, non-issues for 
>> all
> 
> I think that is a bold statement.
> 
>> but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of...
>> As for GnuCap support...
>> I have seen no request for GnuCap support on the sourceforge page.
>>
>> Just remember, KJWaves works "out of the box" and certainly won't cause 
>> anyone to crash their OS.  :-)
> 
> 
>> Kurt
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Sun ultra/10 running Solaris:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> mcmahill@mudshark 56 % ./startKJWaves
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
> spicefe/JFSpiceFE (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
>          at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
>          at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:502)
>          at
> java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123)
>          at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:250)
>          at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:54)
>          at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:193)
>          at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>          at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:186)
>          at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:299)
>          at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:265)
>          at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:255)
>          at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:315)
> 
> 
> 
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