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Thanks DJ.
I have another question now. I open up my custom footprint and it
fills the entire graphics editor and I can't zoom out. I can zoom in,
but not out. I wanted to move it so the diamond was in a different
place, but since I can't zoom out, it is difficult to do this. I set
the scale to 60, but this had no effect.
So, I am having to edit the file directly in GEdit. One thing though,
how do I place a comment in the footprint file. I would like to
comment the file so I know what line does what until I learn this good
enough where I don't need the comments.
Z.K.
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1. Re: How to change the default folder for my drawings?
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2. Re: Beginner question about the default title block
(kai-martin knaak)
3. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (John
Luciani)
4. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (John
Luciani)
5. Re: Drawing lines (schematic editor) (kai-martin knaak)
6. Re: Beginner question about the default title block
(Stephan Boettcher)
7. Re: Drawing lines (schematic editor) (Stephan Boettcher)
8. How to make a foot print ([6]blueeagle2@xxxxxxxxx)
9. Re: How to make a foot print (DJ Delorie)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:54:18 +0100
From: "Johnny Rosenberg" <[7]gurus.knugum@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: How to change the default folder for my
drawings?
To: "gEDA user mailing list" <[8]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <op.vn4r8sdwxqd8ry@pb-laptop>
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Den 2010-12-22 20:50:56 skrev DJ Delorie <[9]dj@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> The default folder is the current working directory. If you're
using
> the desktop to start gschem, you should be able to tell the
desktop icon
> what it's starting directory is. If you start gschem from the
terminal
> the default folder is the current directory inside the terminal.
>
I use the Programs menu (Gnome, Ubuntu 10.10) and there is no such
option
there, unfortunately.
--
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:55:18 +0100
From: kai-martin knaak <[10]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
block
To: [11]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
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Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
supposed
> to fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
way
> to do it?
Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That way I can fire
the attribute editor with [ee] and edit all entries in a dialog.
You'd have to add a line to your local gschemrc in order to get
your localized title block. See
[13]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#can_i_get_a_customized
_title_block_with_new_schematics
While at it, I also removed the big rectangle. I just never fits
my circuit. Instead, I draw a rectangle with the add-box tool.
[14]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#why_are_symbols_so_big
---<)kaimartin(>---
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:58:55 -0500
From: John Luciani <[16]jluciani@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
block
To: [17]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, gEDA user mailing list
<[18]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: [19]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak
<[21]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
supposed
>> to ?fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
way
>> to do it?
>
> Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
> I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
> with regular attributes for name, date, etc.
That is what I did too.
The one I use for A-size is below.
(* jcl *)
v 20031231 1
T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1
graphical=1
B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
TITLE
T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
title=?
T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
REVISION
T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
revision=0
T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
PAGE
T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1
page=?
T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
OF
T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
number_of_pages=?
T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
DRAWN BY
T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
drawn_by=JCL
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:58:55 -0500
From: John Luciani <[22]jluciani@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
block
To: [23]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, gEDA user mailing list
<[24]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: [25]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak
<[27]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
supposed
>> to ?fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
way
>> to do it?
>
> Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
> I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
> with regular attributes for name, date, etc.
That is what I did too.
The one I use for A-size is below.
(* jcl *)
v 20031231 1
T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1
graphical=1
B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
TITLE
T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
title=?
T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
REVISION
T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
revision=0
T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
PAGE
T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1
page=?
T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
OF
T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
number_of_pages=?
T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
DRAWN BY
T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
drawn_by=JCL
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:58:21 +0100
From: kai-martin knaak <[28]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)
To: [29]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <ietl9c$ojt$[30]2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
DJ Delorie wrote:
> Click on each corner as you go, to force the line to go where
> you want.
If the line wants to jump to places you don't like, press ctrl
while dragging the line with the mouse.
---<)kaimartin(>---
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:06:03 +0100
From: Stephan Boettcher <[32]boettcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
block
To: gEDA user mailing list <[33]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <s6n39ppd13o.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Peter TB Brett <[34]peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> When I open a new page, a ?title block? is all I see, and there I
can read
>> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
supposed to
>> fill that in by using the Text tool ...?
>
> Yes! That's what I do, anyway. Other people have other ways of
doing
> it, I'm sure. :-)
Sure! I attach attributes to the titleblock, so I can move the
titleblock with the text.
Typically these:
id=$Id$
author=$Author$
date=$Date$
revision=$Revision$
and have subversion fill in the details.
--
Stephan
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:08:39 +0100
From: Stephan Boettcher <[35]boettcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)
To: gEDA user mailing list <[36]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <s6ny67hbmew.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
"Johnny Rosenberg" <[37]gurus.knugum@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Den 2010-12-22 20:47:41 skrev DJ Delorie <[38]dj@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>>
>> The small circle is the snap-to-pin feature. You can disable it
(I
>> leave it on) via Options->Toggle Magnetic Net
>>
>>
I disable the magnetic net most of the time. It does seldom what i
want
it to do.
--
Stephan
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:34:31 -0800
From: [39]blueeagle2@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print
To: [40]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTi=[41]v5-i7xUEWur2PA76qa7R8LyOcgzg8GUTwz47e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I
find it
better than most I have tried. But the PCB program has a lot to be
desired. I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole,
but I
need some custom parts. I could use KCAD I guess, but I would
really like
to get to know gEDA as well.
I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how
to make
a foot print. I read the documents that are out there, but I am
still not
quite clear how to do this. I was able to do it graphically though
I could
not figure out how to move the positioning diamond no matter what I
did. I
would really like to understand how to do it by modifying the text
files,
but I don't really understand what the document I read is really
doing. One
thing that confuses me is why they are using negative coordinates.
I
thought it started at 0,0 at the upper left corner which does not
make any
sense to me if they are using negative coordinates that I saw in
some of the
examples. The graphics editor though definitely needs some work. I
tried
moving a component and it moved the component all right, but it did
not move
the circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air. Any help
would be
appreciated.
Z.K.
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I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I
find
it better than most I have tried. But the PCB program has a lot
to be
desired. I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole,
but
I need some custom parts. I could use KCAD I guess, but I would
really
like to get to know gEDA as well.
I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on
how to
make a foot print. I read the documents that are out there, but I
am
still not quite clear how to do this. I was able to do it
graphically
though I could not figure out how to move the positioning diamond
no
matter what I did. I would really like to understand how to do it
by
modifying the text files, but I don't really understand what the
document I read is really doing. One thing that confuses me is
why
they are using negative coordinates. I thought it started at 0,0
at
the upper left corner which does not make any sense to me if they
are
using negative coordinates that I saw in some of the examples.
The
graphics editor though definitely needs some work. I tried moving
a
component and it moved the component all right, but it did not
move the
circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air. Any help
would be
appreciated.
Z.K.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:41:38 -0500
From: DJ Delorie <[42]dj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print
To: gEDA user mailing list <[43]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: [44]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <[45]xnaajxa3jh.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
[46]http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/
Coordinates in footprints are relative to the footprint's "mark", or
relative origin. The mark is indicated by the diamond. I.e. you
don't
move the diamond, you move everything else relative to the diamond
:-)
If you select stuff and move it, only the selected stuff moves. If
you
just drag-n-drop without selecting first, traces follow.
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