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   Thanks DJ.
   I have another question now.  I open up my custom footprint and it
   fills the entire graphics editor and I can't zoom out.  I can zoom in,
   but not out.  I wanted to move it so the diamond was in a different
   place, but since I can't zoom out, it is difficult to do this.  I set
   the scale to 60, but this had no effect.
   So, I am having to edit the file directly in GEdit.  One thing though,
   how do I place a comment in the footprint file.  I would like to
   comment the file so I know what line does what until I learn this good
   enough where I don't need the comments.
   Z.K.

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          (kai-martin knaak)
       3. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (John
     Luciani)
       4. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (John
     Luciani)
       5. Re: Drawing lines (schematic editor) (kai-martin knaak)
       6. Re: Beginner question about the default title block
          (Stephan Boettcher)
       7. Re: Drawing lines (schematic editor) (Stephan Boettcher)
       8. How to make a foot print ([6]blueeagle2@xxxxxxxxx)
       9. Re: How to make a foot print (DJ Delorie)
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     Message: 1
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:54:18 +0100
     From: "Johnny Rosenberg" <[7]gurus.knugum@xxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: How to change the default folder for my
            drawings?
     To: "gEDA user mailing list" <[8]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Message-ID: <op.vn4r8sdwxqd8ry@pb-laptop>
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     Den 2010-12-22 20:50:56 skrev DJ Delorie <[9]dj@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
     >
     > The default folder is the current working directory.  If you're
     using
     > the desktop to start gschem, you should be able to tell the
     desktop icon
     > what it's starting directory is.  If you start gschem from the
     terminal
     > the default folder is the current directory inside the terminal.
     >
     I use the Programs menu (Gnome, Ubuntu 10.10) and there is no such
     option
     there, unfortunately.
     --
     Kind regards
     Johnny Rosenberg
     ------------------------------
     Message: 2
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:55:18 +0100
     From: kai-martin knaak <[10]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
            block
     To: [11]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
     Message-ID: <ietl3m$ojt$[12]1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
     Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
     > things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
     supposed
     > to  fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
     way
     > to do it?
     Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
     I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
     with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That way I can fire
     the attribute editor with [ee] and edit all entries in a dialog.
     You'd have to add a line to your local gschemrc in order to get
     your localized title block. See
     [13]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#can_i_get_a_customized
     _title_block_with_new_schematics
     While at it, I also removed the big rectangle. I just never fits
     my circuit. Instead, I draw a rectangle with the add-box tool.
     [14]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#why_are_symbols_so_big
     ---<)kaimartin(>---
     --
     Kai-Martin Knaak
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     Message: 3
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:58:55 -0500
     From: John Luciani <[16]jluciani@xxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
            block
     To: [17]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, gEDA user mailing list
            <[18]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Cc: [19]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
     Message-ID:

     <AANLkTimzCANb6Oog=vrtS+Ro_nnWsJBFOwx+qQrj=[20]WuL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
     On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak
     <[21]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
     > Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
     >
     >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
     supposed
     >> to ?fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
     way
     >> to do it?
     >
     > Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
     > I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
     > with regular attributes for name, date, etc.
     That is what I did too.
     The one I use for A-size is below.
     (* jcl *)
     v 20031231 1
     T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1
     graphical=1
     B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
     B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
     L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
     L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
     L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
     T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     TITLE
     T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     title=?
     T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     REVISION
     T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     revision=0
     T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     PAGE
     T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1
     page=?
     T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     OF
     T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     number_of_pages=?
     T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     DRAWN BY
     T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     drawn_by=JCL
     ------------------------------
     Message: 4
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:58:55 -0500
     From: John Luciani <[22]jluciani@xxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
            block
     To: [23]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, gEDA user mailing list
            <[24]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Cc: [25]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
     Message-ID:

     <AANLkTimzCANb6Oog=vrtS+Ro_nnWsJBFOwx+qQrj=[26]WuL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
     On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak
     <[27]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
     > Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
     >
     >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
     supposed
     >> to ?fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
     way
     >> to do it?
     >
     > Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
     > I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
     > with regular attributes for name, date, etc.
     That is what I did too.
     The one I use for A-size is below.
     (* jcl *)
     v 20031231 1
     T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1
     graphical=1
     B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
     B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
     L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
     L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
     L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
     T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     TITLE
     T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     title=?
     T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     REVISION
     T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     revision=0
     T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     PAGE
     T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1
     page=?
     T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     OF
     T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     number_of_pages=?
     T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
     DRAWN BY
     T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
     drawn_by=JCL
     ------------------------------
     Message: 5
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:58:21 +0100
     From: kai-martin knaak <[28]kmk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)
     To: [29]geda-user@xxxxxxxx
     Message-ID: <ietl9c$ojt$[30]2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
     DJ Delorie wrote:
     > Click on each corner as you go, to force the line to go where
     > you want.
     If the line wants to jump to places you don't like, press ctrl
     while dragging the line with the mouse.
     ---<)kaimartin(>---
     --
     Kai-Martin Knaak
     ?ffentlicher PGP-Schl?ssel:
     [31]http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53
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     Message: 6
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:06:03 +0100
     From: Stephan Boettcher <[32]boettcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title
            block
     To: gEDA user mailing list <[33]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Message-ID: <s6n39ppd13o.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
     Peter TB Brett <[34]peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
     > On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
     >
     >> When I open a new page, a ?title block? is all I see, and there I
     can read
     >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
     supposed to
     >> fill that in by using the Text tool ...?
     >
     > Yes!  That's what I do, anyway.  Other people have other ways of
     doing
     > it, I'm sure. :-)
     Sure! I attach attributes to the titleblock, so I can move the
     titleblock with the text.
     Typically these:
      id=$Id$
      author=$Author$
      date=$Date$
      revision=$Revision$
     and have subversion fill in the details.
     --
     Stephan
     ------------------------------
     Message: 7
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:08:39 +0100
     From: Stephan Boettcher <[35]boettcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)
     To: gEDA user mailing list <[36]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Message-ID: <s6ny67hbmew.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
     "Johnny Rosenberg" <[37]gurus.knugum@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
     > Den 2010-12-22 20:47:41 skrev DJ Delorie <[38]dj@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
     >
     >>
     >> The small circle is the snap-to-pin feature.  You can disable it
     (I
     >> leave it on) via Options->Toggle Magnetic Net
     >>
     >>
     I disable the magnetic net most of the time.  It does seldom what i
     want
     it to do.
     --
     Stephan
     ------------------------------
     Message: 8
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:34:31 -0800
     From: [39]blueeagle2@xxxxxxxxx
     Subject: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print
     To: [40]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Message-ID:

     <AANLkTi=[41]v5-i7xUEWur2PA76qa7R8LyOcgzg8GUTwz47e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
     I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I
     find it
     better than most I have tried.  But the PCB program has a lot to be
     desired.  I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole,
     but I
     need some custom parts.  I could use KCAD I guess, but I would
     really like
     to get to know gEDA as well.
     I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how
     to make
     a foot print.  I read the documents that are out there, but I am
     still not
     quite clear how to do this.  I was able to do it graphically though
     I could
     not figure out how to move the positioning diamond no matter what I
     did.  I
     would really like to understand how to do it by modifying the text
     files,
     but I don't really understand what the document I read is really
     doing.  One
     thing that confuses me is why they are using negative coordinates.
     I
     thought it started at 0,0 at the upper left corner which does not
     make any
     sense to me if they are using negative coordinates that I saw in
     some of the
     examples.  The graphics editor though definitely needs some work.  I
     tried
     moving a component and it moved the component all right, but it did
     not move
     the circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air.  Any help
     would be
     appreciated.
      Z.K.
     -------------- next part --------------
       I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I
     find
       it better than most I have tried.  But the PCB program has a lot
     to be
       desired.  I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole,
     but
       I need some custom parts.  I could use KCAD I guess, but I would
     really
       like to get to know gEDA as well.
       I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on
     how to
       make a foot print.  I read the documents that are out there, but I
     am
       still not quite clear how to do this.  I was able to do it
     graphically
       though I could not figure out how to move the positioning diamond
     no
       matter what I did.  I would really like to understand how to do it
     by
       modifying the text files, but I don't really understand what the
       document I read is really doing.  One thing that confuses me is
     why
       they are using negative coordinates.  I thought it started at 0,0
     at
       the upper left corner which does not make any sense to me if they
     are
       using negative coordinates that I saw in some of the examples.
     The
       graphics editor though definitely needs some work.  I tried moving
     a
       component and it moved the component all right, but it did not
     move the
       circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air.  Any help
     would be
       appreciated.
         Z.K.
     ------------------------------
     Message: 9
     Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:41:38 -0500
     From: DJ Delorie <[42]dj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
     Subject: Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print
     To: gEDA user mailing list <[43]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Cc: [44]geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Message-ID: <[45]xnaajxa3jh.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
     [46]http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/
     Coordinates in footprints are relative to the footprint's "mark", or
     relative origin.  The mark is indicated by the diamond.  I.e. you
     don't
     move the diamond, you move everything else relative to the diamond
     :-)
     If you select stuff and move it, only the selected stuff moves.  If
     you
     just drag-n-drop without selecting first, traces follow.
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