Re: gEDA-user: mail to Stephen Williams

[Stephen Williams <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>]

For the record, and this is the last I'll say about this, the access
list that the icarus.com mail server uses is kept copied here:

  <ftp://ftp.icarus.com/pub/access.spam>

The policy is simple and somewhat automatic: If an IP source sends mail
to icarus.com that is clearly spam, the assumption is that the sender
is virus infected or otherwise hacked and the /24 for that host goes
right into the list. If the /16 habitually gets listed, then the whole
/16 goes into the list.

It's not completely automated because whois information from many
of the biggest places are very very very opaque.

White-listing is an option if your mail comes from a fixed IP within
an otherwise bad neighborhood. I assume that the claim here is that
setoy.chost.de is asking for white-listing. Done.

der Mouse wrote:
>> Sorry to send this via the list, but Stephens mail server blacklisted
>> one of germanys largest root server providers so direct mail doesn't
>> work.
> 
> You say that as if it were a bad thing.
> 
>> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 <setoy.chost.de[217.160.209.225]>: Client host rejected: Subnet 217.160 - Schlund - is a virus nest
> 
> Instead of casting aspersions on people with the guts to block big
> providers who deserve it, maybe you'd be better served by convincing
> said providers to be less of a "virus nest"?  (It wouldn't hurt to
> convince .de itself to be a bit more civilized whiel you're at it;
> their whois server is bizarrely broken.)
> 
> No, their being big does not earn Schlund - or .de - a free pass.  Big
> entities deserve, and need, to be held to *stricter* standards than
> small.


-- 
Steve Williams                "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
steve at icarus.com           But I have promises to keep,
http://www.icarus.com         and lines to code before I sleep,
http://www.picturel.com       And lines to code before I sleep."


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