Re: gEDA-user: Outsourcing PCB layout

[msokolov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Michael Sokolov)]

John Griessen <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> but then, the international reach of the internet along with closed borders
> and regulated trade may put me out, way out :-)

You mean Ineiev's offer being 15-40 times cheaper than what you and
everyone else has offered?  Yeah, that pretty much guarantees that I'll
go with him. :-)

Yes, I know the saying that you get what you pay for.  But this is a
*hobby* project on which I don't expect to make any money ever.  I have
mentioned the possibility of one ISP wanting me to make 100 of those
units, but after I had made that post I have rechecked the availability
of all the parts on my BOM and confirmed what I had feared: the RS8973
SDSL transceiver chip, the one that the whole design revolves around, is
no longer available by any means other than buying other old SDSL
routers on eBay and desoldering that chip.  I have 10 such sacrificial
routers in my stash which have been acquired for that specific purpose.
There is one other chip in my design which I would like to keep in there
for sentimental reasons (TI SN75LBC784 EIA-423 transceiver), and it has
also apparently become unobtainium.  I have 25 of those on hand.

Ineiev's price is something I can actually pay out of my own personal
hobby budget and it won't bother me that I'll be spending the money on
the design of a board of which I'll never be able to make more than 10
or so due to part unavailability.  But in order to pay the kind of
layout labor prices everyone else is asking (which I have to admit are
very reasonable), my project would need to get some outside sponsorship.
Under different circumstances this might not have been a problem, but
who in the world would sponsor the NRE for a project that can't be built
in any volume beyond a few units due to part unavailability?

> I was wondering if this fit with anything I am doing?
> Michael, does this SDSL link have any better
> deterministic time you can phase lock to?

I need to understand the question a little better.  I can give you my
phone # off-list.

MS


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