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Re: gEDA-user: Blind and buried vias?
Jon,
You seem to consistently bring up this argument and I really think
it's to the detriment of the list. I'm sure that by now, everyone on
this list is quite aware that in you're opinion, PCB is not part of
gEDA and not a single question should ever be asked about it. I'm not
sure why it's apparently irrelevant that the accepted predominant
workflow is from gschem to pcb or that pcb is a member project of the
geda project. If member projects and affiliated projects aren't
considered part of gEDA then I'm curious as to what you define as gEDA
and what topics you define as appropriate for this list. Someone on
the list asked for help with blind and buried vias and you're response
was "pcb is not part of gEDA", I'm sure the OP found this information
quite useful.
It might sound a little harsh to say these things but I've noticed
that you do it quite often. Anyone who brings up a point about how
geda/gaf/pcb could be more useful, more user friendly etc quickly gets
shot down by you with the same message, that gEDA is a toolkit, its
flexibility is its power and problems with pcb aren't problems with
geda. You use the line about gEDA being a toolkit to justify any of
its shortcoming despite the fact that gEDA itself doesn't even
consider itself this way. From the website:
"Currently, the gEDA project offers a mature suite of free software
applications for electronics design, including schematic capture,
attribute management, bill of materials (BOM) generation, netlisting
into over 20 netlist formats, analog and digital simulation, and
printed circuit board (PCB) layout."
My point is that your one man war gEDA terminology doesn't help
anyone. It serves only to distract meaningful discussions about gEDA's
shortcomings and ways in which it could be improved as well as
preventing posters from actually getting their questions answered.
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 11:14 -0600, John Doty wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:27:02 -0600, John Doty wrote:
>
>> but some (perhaps many) of us use gschem/gnetlist with other back
>> ends.
>
> Not so many. See the result of last years poll. 3 out of 32
> confessed to
> do the layout with PADS. The rest uses pcb.
Hmm, you apparently didn't include *my* response. Did you miss
anything else?
32 responses is hardly a large sample, and I'd expect it to be biased
toward pcb: this list is predominantly about pcb despite its name...
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References
1. http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53
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3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
4. http://www.noqsi.com/
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