Re: [tor-talk] How safe is smartphones today?

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To me this has nothing to do with "What are you afraid of?" Each of us have a fundamental right to privacy. The ability to call our spouse and ask them to pick up a loaf of bread, or for us to call up someone we are planning a bank robbery with and have 100% confidence that not one word of the conversation will ever be available to anyone but the intended recipient. We can do that, with public key cryptography, which needs to be standard. It is blatantly wrong for governments to try to break any security measures. Any efforts they do though, must be made public and be done only for the purpose of helping us know that our encryption can not be broken.
 
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Christopher Booth

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 From: anonymous coward <anonymous.coward@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] How safe is smartphones today?
 

Nathan Freitas:

> On 04/02/2014 07:01 PM, anonymous coward wrote:
>> Many people use TOR or secure ways to chat on smartphones.
> 
>> The last months have reveiled how hard secret services attack our
>> phones.
> 
>> This leads me to the question, how secure are our smartphones at
>> all?
> 
> It comes down to what are you afraid of?


Thanks to all for replying.

Well, I try not to get caught in the dragnet. Besides, I have no special
threat model or fear.

But, the situation could change quickly in certain situations without
your intention.

For example, I want to talk to political activists, I would like to
discuss with them, no matter if I share their views or not. This could
easily make you interesting for certain people. Sometimes just talking
to certain people could make you suspicious.

And this is my concern.

Is a mobile device safe to use for "sensitive" discussions?

In my view and recent events suggest you can become a target, although
you are just a small number. Just talking to people could cause this.

If I listen to the discussion in this thread, a mobile device is not
adequate at all to protect your data in case of a targetted attack.

I guess, the only safe way would be to use an offline device for storing
data and a second device for online communication. And a third device
may be necessary. There are devices, that connect with bluetooth to your
smartphone and do all all the encryption totally encapsulated in its own
little box.

I don´t have any current need for such steps, but want to know what is
the current state in security.

Thanks.

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