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Re: [tor-talk] Tor Summer of Privacy
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 20:35:44 -0400
Paul Syverson <paul.syverson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> More details on the history at
> > I mean we don't need to repeat yet again that tor is a
> > project of the US military. As such it doesn't make
> > sense for it to be 'decentralized'.
> For the technical reasons behind the degree and nature of
> centralization and decentralization, see the above paper and the Tor
> design paper. Also note that ironically the first few major design
> versions made purely by govt. employees were actually more
> decentralized. E.g. see the above paper, also
> It was only when we moved to the Tor design, that we moved to being
> a bit less P2P with directory authorities.
And what point are you making with all that hand waving? 'a bit
less p2p'? That's some technical language.
> For more technical arguments why this is in practice more secure than
> other designs known at the time see
> http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#danezis-pet2008 and
Even assuming that the central servers are more
'secure' (although that's vague - more secure for whom
against what kind of attacks) the fact remains that centralized
control over the network is something obviously in line with
the political objectives of your employers.
> But by all means please continue justifying everything you say based
> on what you tenaciously are sure some large organizations must intend
Is your contention that your employers don't have any purpose
at all? Or that the government responsible for a global
surveillance system (among many other sick crimes) also pays you
to counter them? lol
See, you can play that game only so far. You can pretend to be a
'technician' who knows nothing about politics only so far.
On the other hand I do realize that you are just playing a part
here, for your audience of lackeys.
Obviously you are not going to admit that you are just a tool
of the US military providing them with resources to 'spread
democracy' in 'oppressed countries'.
> rather than the technical design reasons that have been published and
> publically vetted by the best scientific and technical researchers on
> the planet
Oh boy. Are you arrogant.
By the way, have you and your friends received any national
security letter lately?
> from the most respected advanced institutions in every
> country. What could they possibly add to the truly dizzying intellect
> manifest in your arguments to date?
> Apologies to others for failing to resist feeding the troll.
So, you have nothing but name calling. And funnily enough whine
about 'ad hominems'. Unintentional self-parody at its best.
> Guess I'm
> tired. Here's a little ad hominem of my own: Moritz started it.
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