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Re: [tor-talk] Nice to meet you! / WhatsApp by Tor?
Em ter, 16 de abr de 2019 às 13:35, Cyaniventer <cyaniventer@xxxxxxxxxx>
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:05:50 -0400
> "GTI .H" <gti9070h@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Em ter, 16 de abr de 2019 às 12:33, Cyaniventer
> > <cyaniventer@xxxxxxxxxx> escreveu:
> > > No! Don't use it if you are actually very serious about this.
> > >
> > Well, my mistake can cost me my life.
> > My country is one of those who has blocked WhatsApp and dings who
> > tries to show their abuses. It is repressive, but for some reason the
> > world sees it with good eyes, perhaps because it is not openly
> > declared socialist, but it is certainly authoritarian, corrupt and
> > very dangerous and constantly puts innocents in jail without the
> > slightest humanitarian feeling.
> My advice is to stay away from Tor. DO NOT connect to Tor network
> directly because if they are blocking whatsapp then probably there are
> idiots in power and they would do the same thing for using Tor.
Excuse me if I get it wrong, but are you worried about me or the Tor
They are not blocking WhatsApp currently, I said they have blocked in the
past. And Tor I think it was never blocked except for some sites like
Interpol, I do not know why. Why???
There is no doubt that there are idiots in power, and the thing is even
worse, we have a "*Big Dog Fight*", some order to block/arrest, then others
order to unblock/free, is a "*Russian Roulette*", TOTAL legal insecurity.
> > > or whatever you want and set that vpn to
> > > > > `always on`. Idk what else you can do, also your first method of
> > > > > routing your traffic through your computer is not that good.
> > > > >
> > > > Why?
> > >
> > > because what if something fails somewhere and your ip gets leaked?
> > > are you really sure that everything you've setup will work without
> > > fail? Also see nathan@xxxxxxxxxxx 's email, > Since WhatsApp is
> > > executable code on your Android phone, it can access information
> > > about your device directly. This includes accessing your "real" IP
> > > address through local network information APIs.
> > >
> > That's why I'm here asking, I'm not sure of anything.
> If they've blocked whatsapp and you can face jail time for using it,
> then don't use it. If you want to talk encrypted with your
> friends/families then there are lots of other services that support end
> to end encryption. signal, wire, keybase, email with gpg, xmpp, matrix,
> (tutanota, protonmail - both, not good but okay in this case).
No, the arrest is for those who speak what they do not want.
The goal is to talk with friends/familie and all other professionals.
> On android download f-droid (https://f-droid.org) and look for delta
> chat, that probably makes email with gpg easier. For gpg download
> openkeychain. you can also use k9-mail if you don't care about the ui.
> for gpg resources see:
> and links below.
Thanks for the tip, but this will isolate me from others in our unique ways
> I'll take a look, but what the best current way is the physical
> > protection how to use public WiFi far.
> > It's disappointing.
> Yes, feels bad. Internet was meant to be open for everyone.
> Jailtime for using something like whatsapp is insanity, they will fill
> up the jails real quick if they try to arrest everyone. Do they only
> arrest those who speak against them, or everyone? You have to decide
> for yourself what you are going to do about this.
> These websites have good information and you should read it all.
Jailtimeis is for what we speak.
We are breaking records of prisons, here everyone is called bandit for
almost nothing. The repression is very strong. They create a mythological
fugue, such as "bandit", they point the finger at someone and everyone runs
off the poor, it's lynching all the time, we have a genocide in full swing,
it dies more here than Russia and the US can kill together in the war
against ISIS in Syria.
> The real question should've been, `how do I hide my whatsapp usage from
> my government/isp?`. You should always explain what you are trying to
> achieve and not how you would achieve the method you thought. Maybe
> someone will have some other idea that is better than yours.
We can use WhatsApp, we can not talk what they do not like!
It would be "How do I hide my whatsapp origin IP from
my government / isp?"
> Anyways, I looked up that article and read it and I wouldn't recommend
> doing that because you can still get it wrong and thats going to be
> very bad in your case. Also see, https://tails.boum.org/
> Connect to Tor through a bridge and not directly. See
Thank you, I have much to read and study, I thought that someone had
already walked this path and would have the solution more ready.
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