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Re: [tor-talk] Appearing American



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mirimir:
> On 08/23/2013 05:27 PM, mick wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:41:13 -0400 Nathan Suchy
>> <theusernameiwantistaken@xxxxxxxxx> allegedly wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd beg to differ. There are very good VPN providers that keep 
>>> absolutely no logs so you would have anonymity in that case.
>> 
>> How do you pay for them? Bitcoin?
>> 
>> (Serious question. But, I recognise, off-topic.)
> 
> It's actually on topic, at least somewhat.
> 
> Yes, you can pay with Bitcoins. But first, you must anonymize them 
> through multiple mixing services, via Tor. Otherwise, Bitcoins are
> not at all anonymous, because all transactions are in the
> blockchain.
> 
> Multibit clients work well over Tor. They're local, but they don't 
> download the blockchain. You can easily run them in Whonix etc. 
> Reputable mixing services include http://bitlaundry.appspot.com/, 
> http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ and http://6fgd4togcynxyclb.onion/.
> 
> You can also pay for VPN services by mailing cash.
> 

And you've to trust those VPN providers to stay true to their words
and keep their promises for not keeping *any* log. And then... you've
to pray they wouldn't get tapped, keep their traffic secure, etc etc.

Privacy by design vs privacy by promise

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