Re: [tor-talk] Inquiry about Vidalia/Tor bundle

[Nathan Suchy <theusernameiwantistaken@xxxxxxxxx>]

It goes through a guard, middle, and exit node which does not anything
about each other than the next and last hop. It is by far more secure. Its
probably secure enough for anything. Even illegal speech. It should keep
you safe.
On Aug 27, 2013 2:46 AM, "mirimir" <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 08/26/2013 11:08 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 05:58:22PM -0500, Missouri Anglers wrote:
> >> I downloaded and installed "PirateBrowser" which is a Firefox
> >> browser configured to use vidalia/tor.
> >
> > Not quite -- it is a bundle that includes a variety of software
> > including Firefox, Vidalia, and Tor, configured in the way they
> > wanted to configure it.
> >
> > Specifically, don't be confused into thinking this is a Tor product,
> > or that it will keep you safe in some particular way.
> >
> > In fact, they even have a disclaimer saying that it's not an
> > anonymity tool. And in this case that's not just a disclaimer, it's
> > an accurate statement.
>
> That's true, but their disclaimer
> <http://piratebrowser.ca/faq_piratebrowser.html> is still extremely
> misleading:
>
> > Does it make me surf the net anonymously?
> >
> > No, Pirate Browser is not intended to be a TOR Browser, while it uses
> > the Tor network, which is designed for anonymous surfing, this
> > browser is ONLY intended to circumvent censorship. The Tor network is
> > used to help route around the censoring / blocking of websites your
> > government doesn't want you to know about.
> >
> > If you are looking for something more secure you may want to try a
> > VPN like PrivacyIO.
>
> They could have at least pointed people at TBB!
>
> >> I assume this is simply just a browser set up to use an anonymous
> >> proxy?
> >
> > From what I heard (it's Windows-only so I haven't tried running it
> > or decompiling it to find out what it is really), it includes
> > Foxyproxy, configured to only go through Tor for a select set of
> > sites that are commonly censored. The rest of the sites bypass Tor.
>
> That should be clearly stated in the summary under "Search" at the top
> of <http://piratebrowser.ca/>. What they're doing is totally reckless.
>
> >> I am not exactly a beginner when it comes to using anonymous
> >> proxies. I have been gathering proxy lists, scanning them with
> >> software to see if they are valid/anonymous and configuring my
> >> browser to use them for years. However I am no expert.
> >>
> >> This Vidalia/Tor has me confused.
> >
> > Again, please remember this is somebody else's program, called
> > Pirate Browser, and not anything made by Tor. Though it does include
> > tools written by Tor, but tools-written-by-Tor only perform the way
> > Tor had in mind if you configure them that way.
> >
> >> The program loads, connects to the Tor network and everything looks
> >> and acts well. However when I check my stats at various websites
> >> that I use such as (http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test) my IP address
> >> is revealed along with my ISP amd other accurate information.
> >>
> >> I also checked https://check.torproject.org/ and it says that it is
> >> not working.
> >
> > That sounds compatible with my Foxyproxy theory above.
> >
> > Hope that helps, --Roger
> >
>
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