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[tor-talk] All I Want For X-mas: TorPhone


Thanks for the link, Chuck! Unfortunately, at least for me, that approach isn't sufficient, as it requires one of the most broken devices ever regarding basic functionality and still allows Google services, even if disabled. Not to mention the learning curve. Not that I am against learning or working for my goal but I have tried similar things in the past and, in comparison, having no device is just so much better. Though I hope you get a TShirt :) I have been working on a few, though none are good enough to share, yet.

Seth, thanks a bunch for the super duper in-depth insight. I feel you on the MAC address IDing, as I have always hated my ISP being able to see every device on my "private" home and business networks. I have been wishing for a TorBlock device that would allow my ISP to see my modem, or modem/router combo, only, while giving a big ol' Fuck You to any request to see other connected devices, unless, that is, I choose to allow specific device access for troubleshooting. Whether it is a separate, and very small, box that middlemans between the modem and the WiFi router, or is ware firmed into the modem/router combo.

But are you saying that even though my IP is obfuscated my device WiFi ID is still visible? Maybe "other people" is unclear. Or, maybe I thought I understood something I actually do not, which is seeming to be the case.

Maybe, in addition to the awesomeness that is Atlas, at least what's in the TorButton in TorBrowser-4.5-Alpha-2, we have a greater visualization of things. More specifically, exactly what each node, and maybe the final destination, sees. This could help, in addition to addressing the guard node issues in some way, assist TorBrowser users in changing their habits, or at least know what habits could lead to certain levels of fingerprinting.

I wasn't aware of Whonix, so thanks, but TAILS seems to have a mobile device option if you throw it on an SD card, though it appears to require plugging into a laptop, but I might be mistaken.

Tough challenges for sure.


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