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Re: [tor-talk] Not comfortable with the new single-hop system merged into Tor
This is the most people unaware, human behavior unaware feature to come out
of programming since they made logging default on for OTR+Pidgin. This is
just begging for sites to be even more insecure than they are already.
>People do stupid stuff.
Which is exactly why you should have this feature as it is. You say its
insulting to users, we say the actual reality of the situation is that
people use TOR who arent computer experts and sane defaults are a needed
thing, to help keep people safe. Dissidents and vulnerable people use this
service, you cant expect them all to be experts and you cant treat them
like they are, because they arent.
This is pants on head stupid. Fix it.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Alec Muffett <alec.muffett@xxxxxxxxx>
> On 21 December 2016 at 14:01, Allen <allenpmd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Alex,
> > that is inappropriate language and behavior for a public
> > discussion list. You have demeaned yourself greatly with that
> > outburst, and only succeeding in damaging the Tor project. Please
> > stop.
> For clarity, I'm not a member of the Tor project. I am independent,
> freelance, and I am very good at what I do.
> And I do own my words, but for the sake of this posting I'll try to be
> "polite". In future you might want to block me, just in case.
> To reiterate my position, in case you missed it:
> Thesis: we should not treat users as stupid.
> Second, as someone who firmly believes in Murphy's Law, I share the
> > concerns that have been expressed. The only solution to address these
> > concerns if to discuss the steps that have or will be taken to ensure
> > the situation cannot happen, not to attack the concerns themselves or
> > the intelligence of the people who hold them.
> So, that means you are happy to implicitly denigrate the intelligence of
> people who run onion sites, yet not happy to have that perspective itself
> called prejudicial, stupid and daft?
> As I say above: I feel we should work from the assumption that people are
> smart until proven otherwise, and that includes those who set up onion
> If it proves to be a problem, later, then fix it, later.
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