Re: [tor-talk] Scarp may be wrong about Tor Mail

[adrelanos <adrelanos@xxxxxxxxxx>]

scarp:
> adrelanos:
>> scarp:
>>> Once again that list is not verified or necessarily an official
>>> position.
> 
>> phobos made that edit.
> 
>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/LikelyTMViolators?action=history
> 
>>  No one less than Andrew Lewman.
> 
>> https://www.torproject.org/about/corepeople.html.en
> 
>> Not sure if that means it fulfills the definition of "official 
>> position", because I don't know a definition most people would
>> agree too, but that list means at least something. 
>> _______________________________________________
> 
> 
> While that may be true the list is only 'trademark' violations or
> confusions, ie people who have contacted torproject.org asking for
> clarification whether those addresses are affiliated or not.
> 
> The list does not does not claim to contain entities that have
> committed "bad deeds", nor does it provide such evidence of such acts.
> 
> For a user to interpret it this way would be improper usage of the list.
> 
> I do however the list isn't very accurate. Given that the description
> says:
> 
>> Current domain names trying to confuse users with fake or poor
>> software
> 
> Because a. only two of the addresses provide software that is fake or
> poor:
> 
> ie:
> 
> * download-tor-browser.com
> Version of Tor Browser with installer that installs some addons and
> looks like it optionally installs adware/spyware toolbars
> 
> * sourceforge.net/projects/torbrowser/
> Contains unknown changes, full source code isn't available. Old
> version of Tor Browser.
> 
> Where as:
> 
> * tormail.org & tormail.net
> Introduction pages for the actual tormail service located at
> http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion email is not accessible through the
> tormail.org or tormail.net domains.
> 
> They also clearly state at the top of their page they do not claim any
> affiliation with TorProject.
> 
> I don't see how they are "trying to confuse users".
> 
> * torfone.org
> Once again states up the top in red "This product is produced
> independently from the Tor® anonymity software and carries no
> guarantee from The Tor Project."
> 
> Looks to be a free open source VOIP solution that utilizes Hidden
> Services. I can't vouch for how good it is, but it's obviously not
> trying to pretend that it has some sort of official endorsement or
> affiliation to TorProject.
> 
> * torguard.net
> Has nothing to do with Tor and doesn't claim to. I believe the "tor"
> comes from abbreviating "torrent" as they advertise themselves as a
> anonymous vpn service for bit torrent users.
> 

Yes, agreed with that.
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