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Re: [tor-talk] Escape NSA just to enter commercial surveillance?

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 12:51:31 -0500
Philipp Winter <phw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 05:58:50PM +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:
> > To be honest, this surprises me quite a bit. Tor is for
> > anonymisation, so one can escape tax paid surveillance by NSA, GCHQ
> > & Co., which is useful. And then such a Tor user connects to
> > Facebook, where one has to log in, making this anonymisation
> > completely pointless? At least I don't get the point.
> Logging in to Facebook over Tor reveals your identity, but not your
> location.

	any garden variety proxy achieves the same result.

>  Facebook still does not know if you are logging in from
> Angola or Indonesia.  Also, Facebook doesn't get to learn your
> operating system or your browsing history.
> Privacy tools must be policy-agnostic to experience widespread
> adoption. And widespread adoption is what Tor needs to guarantee
> better anonymity. As you point out, it is important to remind people
> of the dangers of using Facebook.  However, it should be up to the
> user to decide if she wants to use Facebook or not.
> Cheers,
> Philipp

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