Re: Tor Exit Node Sponsorship - looking for partners

[W <waterwaiter@xxxxxxx>]

This is not an entrepreneurial proposition all. I'm merely talking about exposing the end-users to the financial realities of operating the service, and inviting them to help in a more obvious way. I'm NOT suggesting blatant nagware. "Gentle" is the word used, and I certainly never said pop-ups.

Forget my comment about technically-minded users for a moment. My question really should read: "Are there a significant body of end users of Tor who do not understand how it fundamentally works?"

Think about it: Once Tor is setup properly, how often is the average user going to return to the website to be reminded that they should donate, or that Tor organizationally is in need of this or that? Yes, the speed of the network should be some indicator, but I am suggesting that not everyone will know that, so perhaps a message like "Tor exit nodes are heavily congested. Click here to help . . . " would have a beneficial impact.

All this being said, I completely understand, even even fully empathize with your reaction. I would never want to see Tor be packaged with crapware!

.w



On May 13, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Jon wrote:

> I can not speak for everyone else, but for my self, if I read this
> right, imo, there is no difference or very little difference between
> nagware popups and splash screens that have reminders or ads on them.
> 
> There is enough ' crap '  ware out there with those pop ups, etc. As a
> relay operator, if i had to see this everytime an upgrade was done or
> had to reboot for whatever reason, those screens/popups would be
> enough after a while to stop being a relay.
> 
> I am not in the ' technically-minded ' user base, but I am among the
> relay user database that donates time, bandwidth, money to the cause
> here. As just like several hundred others.
> 
> Again, imo, I get the feeling beginning from the topic, that it
> appears to be more to this then meets the eye. It seems to me that
> some one other than TOR is going to benefit more from this.
> 
> I may be wrong in the way I am reading this, but sure seems like to me
> that this is an entrepreneur proposition for some one to make money
> on/with.

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