Has the EFF sent anyone to China to check this out and hopefully
get some more details? It would be especially interesting to find out
what the situation is for other P2P and anonymity networks w/in china.
If they are alive, how? If they got canned, what were their mistakes
that lead to it? ~Andrew Matt Thorne wrote: most of the censoring, in china at least, is done automatically with no human intervention. In my statement I ment that having an exit node behind the firewall would give us the same restrictions that they are having to deal with right now. for most people that really wouldn't impact their lives that much, except that there would be some pages that you counldn't view, and some messages that you couldn't send. BUT. there is always a but, We, for the most part, are from countires that don't have restrictions on speach, so we would set off all of the flags that the censoring software was looking for, and the ISP would be ordered to cut the connection pretty quickly. Personally I don't think that an exit or entry server would last more than 5 minutes on china's web. On 11/14/05, Bob <monfster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Well, the faq says "If you want to avoid most if not all abuse potential, set it to "reject *:*". This is called being a "middleman" node." - but can that also be an Entry node? However, I think someone running any type of tor SERVER node behind the Great Firewall would have a lot more to worry about than just pissing off their isp... -----Original Message----- From: owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ADB Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:09 PM To: or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Tor limitation OK. I was going to say, "Tor should be able to get through it!". The point is, if you have a bunch of tor nodes, especially geographically disparate ones, the load should be spread out, no? Are they default-allow or default-deny over there? Bob wrote: I think there was a tag missing - I think it was: <Sarcasm>yes I really want to use an exit node that is located behind the great firewall...</Sarcasm> -----Original Message----- From: owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arrakistor Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:34 PM To: Matt Thorne Subject: Re[2]: Tor limitation Hello Matt, Somehow, I don't think China will kindly look upon those running Tor servers inside their country. Infact, I am concerned about the integrity of Tor servers which have data passing through Chinese servers, as it seems hard to believe their government would allow them to exist without their approval. Has anyone else had such concerns, or any answers to such concerns? Regards, ST Monday, November 14, 2005, 3:18:21 PM, you wrote: yes I really want to use an exit node that is located behind the great firewall... On 11/14/05, ADB <firefox-gen@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:firefox-gen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Here's an easy solution for our buddies under commie control: SET UP MORE TOR EXIT NODE & DIR SERVERS! It's not tha hard! ;) ~Andrew Darren Griffith wrote: Many of the Chinese who are using tor are complaining that it is too slow to be usable by them. I imagine that those who feel they need to use this program don't mind it being at about dial-up speeds. I'm in Beijing and I'm happy that Tor is there when I need it. In fact, en.wikipedia.org is now blocked by my ISP, so Tor is almost essential. But yes, it's pretty slow, though I'm patient. Only lately, I'm consistently getting DNS lookup failures, and that's what's mostly eroding my experience of using Tor all the time. (I know I should change the config of my client to give more logging info so I can track down this bad exit node, but I haven't made the effort yet.) -- Darren Paul Griffith www.madphilosopher.ca -- <a href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&language=us&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM">"http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&langu age=us&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM" <http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&language=u s&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM> >The domain Phoenixoflight.com is for sale!</a> -- Best regards, Arrakistor mailto:arrakistor@xxxxxxxxx -- <a href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&language=us&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM">"http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&langu age=us&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM" <http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&language=u s&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM> >The domain Phoenixoflight.com is for sale!</a> -- <a href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&language=us&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM">"http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?tracked=&partnerid=19673&language=us&domain=PHOENIXOFLIGHT.COM">The domain Phoenixoflight.com is for sale!</a> |