Re: [tor-talk] anonabox : the Tor hardware router

[Shawn Nock <nock@xxxxxxxx>]

If all users use Tor only for sensitive communications, then state level adversaries can round up all users of Tor and the provided anonymity is of little use. 

Cat photos and Amazon shopping by non-subversives gives vulnerable users cover and is fundimental to the usefulness of Tor.

Should entities encouraging heavy routine use of Tor contribute relays? Absolutely.

On November 12, 2014 12:40:06 PM MST, Denise's Yahoo Acct <unixgrl70@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>I agree!  Tor should be used selectively because of bandwidth.  The
>number of tor users is going up, which is great, but as the number of
>users increase so does the burden on the tor net. 
>
>
>
>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Andrew F <andrewfriedman101@xxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>> 
>> Great, so now ALL traffic from a user of this product will be on
>> TOR?  Amazon, Facebook, looking at cute cat videos....
>> Have they have they set aside a few dollars of profit  to host
>servers to
>> match bandwidth demand?
>> 
>> You see my point?  Right.  Tor should be used selectively.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Aymeric Vitte
><vitteaymeric@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> I was wondering when this would happen.  Any idea if this is from
>the
>>>>> guys who put together the box or just some random dude?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If they want to make a good image for themselves, I'm not sure
>that just
>>>>> copy/pasting their text from Indigogo onto this mailing list is
>the best
>>>>> way to go about it...
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think there is any "hazard" in what they are doing, but
>probably
>>>> they don't feel they sould expose themselves to this list since
>they
>>> explain
>>>> that they are already very well connected to the Tor community:
>>>> 
>>>> "He also volunteers for the Tor support forum the Tor Stack
>Exchange,
>>> and is
>>>> an admin for the official Tor project discussion page on LinkedIn."
>>>> 
>>>> Still amazed that some blogers are recommending this, apparently
>they
>>>> promise to send them a box.
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously when will these guys be stopped? They have lied enough,
>the Tor
>>>> project should say something (or are you really connected to them
>as they
>>>> claim?)
>>> 
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20140516233302/http://augustgermar.com/
>>> 
>>> There appears to be a few tech support lines for this product
>>> and any official-admin-ness issues.
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