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Re: [tor-talk] help us:Korean government started to fine netizen who download child pornography without child



This seems similar to when Australia outlawed porn involving women with
small breasts:
<http://theweek.com/article/index/105766/australias-small-breast-ban>

Nobody is trying to support actual images of child abuse as far as I can
tell in this thread.

There are just some who think that anything that can be logically
connected to child abuse should be illegal (like school uniforms, or
small breasts), and some who think that only images that involve actual
human children should be illegal.

This also seems similar to when the UK tried to outlaw BDSM recently,
presumably because it's similar to actual violent crimes (even though it
would be entirely consensual).

(I would like to declare myself personally as not being in either camp,
but this entire conversation is vastly off-topic for this mailing list
and probably an existential threat to the Tor project, so I'm not going
to contribute further than this, hoping that I've elucidated some of the
motivations behind the people involved such that everyone will stop
talking about it.)

On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 10:24 +0900, Nam Su wrote:
> I think there is some misunderstanding.
> 
> Child pornography without child means video whose character looks under-19-year-old or wears a school uniform and animation whose character looks under-19-years old. 
> 
> However, there are a few sexual scenes in video, the video is child pornography. 
> 
> There is no principle.  If south Korean police want to arrest netizen who download that video, they do it even Korean is democracy society.
> 
> 2012. 10. 21. ìì 5:24 Julian Yon <julian@xxxxxxxxxx> ìì:
> 
> > On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:27:13 +0100
> > Julian Yon <julian@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I'm not quite sure what "child pornography without child" is meant to
> >> mean, but I don't think you're going to find much support for child
> >> sexual abuse (real or faked) on this or any other public mailing list.
> > 
> > Apparently I was wrong about this. *sigh* I guess I have to put up with
> > more emails matching /child.*porn/ in my inbox, and hope the police
> > don't add that to their list of reasons to harass us here in the UK.
> > 
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