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Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013



On 10/9/2013 2:35 PM, mick wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 18:51:50 -0000
harmony01@xxxxxxxxxx allegedly wrote:

So to be clear, your position is that Edward Snowden is still loyal to
NSA, and is releasing misinformation according to a plan of their own
design?
I didn't mention ES. I'm speaking in general terms. HISTORICALLY, what I said in *general* has proven to be true, time & again. If others think for some reason, it's now going to be different, they're entitled. I'm speaking of various agencies making statements of how "difficult it is for them" to track / crack / infiltrate the Tor network & other similar topics or propaganda.
Once you start to believe in conspiracy theories you inevitably end up
questioning any version of reality.

Theories? Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. There's no theory involved in my statement. It's simply based on historical facts. It's based on hundreds, if not thousands of years of gov'ts' behaviors, the world over. If you want to take the last 75 yrs, there's still more than enough historical documentation that advanced gov'ts always know more & can do more than they let on. In fact, they'd be insane NOT to do it this way.

All Gov'ts' would be derelict in their duties if in general, they let the public & other states know all their technology & intelligence capabilities. That is the ONLY point I was making. Historically (not theoretically), what the public knows at the time is often the tip of the ice berg. In reverse, many believe the Holocaust & moon landing were some gov't's scams.

Is it a "conspiracy theory" that many (an undetermined %) of email, internet activity, phone calls, skype, VOIP communications, etc., of persons that aren't suspected of any criminal activity, are being monitored? In spite of congressional hearings & national coverage, most people forgot about it after a couple days or just refuse to believe it. Polls show many still think there WERE WMDs in Iraq & that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9-11.

For all of recorded history, average citizens have never been too interested in, or taken the time to find out as much as they could about what their gov't was up to.
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