Re: Tor Defense Fund...an idea.

[glymr <glymr_darkmoon@xxxxxxx>]

My point here, which seems to be lost on everyone, is that putting your
neck out is a monetary (at least requires monetary) contribution. As for
organising users together that is just a matter of good viral marketing.
Fast internet is starting to spread fast anyway, with all this ADSL2
popping up. I think perhaps that better would be to get people to sign
on for being part of the class action defense group as a part of running
a server. I'm sure this would bring a lot of the broader civil liberties
people into the fold.

Anothony Georgeo wrote:
> 
> 
> */glymr <glymr_darkmoon@xxxxxxx>/* wrote:
> 
>     An amusing subtext in this is that issue of social reward which came up
>     in discussions about how to encourage tor servers to appear. I'm
>     inclined to suggest that a firehose blasting would work better, find an
>     effective way to get more people to run tor nodes, and it goes from
>     victimisation to class action.
> 
> Well, I know Roger, Nick, etc are against it but making Tor run as a
> server by default may be worth more consideration (I2P does this). 
> Also, I've read posts about the possibility of offering better speed/etc
> to clients who also operate servers, this may be the best option.
> 
> A class-action would be the best option but I believe it would be
> hard/impossible to make a class-action with operators in different
> countries due in part to how each country handles class-actions (or if
> they allow them at all).  This would mean a class-action in Germany by
> German operators and a class-action in France by French operators, etc,
> etc.  It may be more feasible to offer monetary help with legal defense
> and fines incurred to individual operators than try to launch
> class-actions in each country.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Anogeorgeo
> 
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