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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Google error / CAPTCHAs.
On 2016-09-27 09:45, Alec Muffett wrote:
On 27 September 2016 at 09:42, Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Exactly. This manifests where folk on Twitter complain that "zomg i'm
using the onion site and it's blocked me!" - when in fact some perhaps
is running - code that someone took the time to write - to
that you are a person who logs-in over Tor, that you really are who you
claim to be, and that this is all "okay".
Otherwise the first time that someone logs-in from a Tor exit node
someone using Tor to experiment with your credentials, which they
off you via an e-mail, or something. (This is another popular misuse of
from the perspective of the big platforms.)
It is definitely a _tough_ problem.
This is exactly my issue. If I login to my Gmail or FB account then
invariably Gmail or FB thinks I am a suspicious person hence "Something
seems a bit different about the way you're trying to sign in. Complete
the step below to let us know it's you and not someone pretending to be
you" or worse "Google couldn't verify it's you, so you can't sign in to
this account right now." In the FB case, I am asked to identify my
"friends" half of whom have baby photos or the image is unclear..
Sometimes I get them wrong and am locked out for a few hours. And this
is when connecting via the FB .onion address.
IMO, and I am curious to know what Alec thinks, Google, FB, etc are
creating far too many false positives. Googling "Something seems a bit
different about the way you're trying to sign in" results in numerous
cases where innocent users have been locked out.
Is there a way that using an exit node for Gmail, FB, etc will not be
considered suspicious? Is that even possible?
Is it possible to use a different proxy way to access Gmail, FB, etc
without being seen as suspicious? For example, one could use proxychains
with Tor followed by a SOCKS proxy to login.
In both cases above (exit node and exit node plus SOCKS) we assume that
the IP address more or less matches the "normal" non-proxy login. I am
in Paris and use a Paris exit node and a Paris SOCKS proxy for example.
Finally, thanks for participating in this discussion. It is rare to have
people who work or used to work at the major webmail and social media
companies from a) getting involved and b) providing a nuanced (not
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