Re: [pygame] OS X distro...

[TheG <gareth.noyce@ukonline.co.uk>]

> There's a great little utility called Console.app in 
> /Applications/Utilities/ ..  stdout for any application started from 
> the finder is redirected to /private/var/tmp/console.log, Console.app 
> is just a fancy shmancy tail -f
>

Thanks, I found this just after posting. RTFM manual time for me it 
seems...! :-)

> As far as I know, that's just how MacOS works.  I've never seen two of 
> the same application started up.  One thing that could be done is that 
> Python.app (the stub that hosts the python interpreter) could be 
> multi-threaded or multiforked or something of the sort to accept 
> "document open" events after the initial startup.  It's possible, 
> eventually, but for now it's beyond the time I have to spare.  One 
> thing you could do, it's a nasty hack.. buuut.  If you duplicate 
> /Application/Python.app as say, /Applications/PythonSecond.app, and you 
> cd /Applications/PythonSecond.app/Resources and sudo vi Info.plist and 
> change the CFBundleName from PythonInterpreter to say 
> PythonSecondInterpreter .. if you drag a python file onto PythonSecond, 
> it should launch separately from one started from Python.app.  It's 
> retarded, but that's the only solution I can offer you right now.
>

I've never seen two of the same app launched either; 'good point. Bit of 
an arse that and like the application-owner meta-data, a portion of 
Apple's views that I *don't* agree with...

Anyway, the solution above will have to do, as I can think of numerous 
occasions where I'll want that purely from a work perspective. I'll try 
it that over the weekend and report back -- thanks for the tip.

>
> As long as you start it as /usr/local/bin/python file.py you should be 
> okay, I've had plenty of luck with it myself. But, you don't get the 
> menus that you get with running it otherwise and it's not something I 
> can support because I had so many problems with it myself.

That's fine, so long as I know. I'm not in need of menus in Python, I'm 
quite nippy in Bash... ;-)

I have noticed that mouse focus doesn't move from the terminal to the 
application window -- seems like the terminal losing focus forces a 
defocus on the sub-processes, and there's a few other funnies, but it's 
slightly more immediate out of emacs so I'll probably be working around 
this for a while.

>
> Poor G3 user.. I've fallen in love with the altivec unit of the G4.  
> The next pygame binary set I release will have SDL optimizations 
> especially for G4 users.  Maybe it's time to look at the new iMacs?  ;)
>


Well, I bought the G3 to check out if OS X was worth it. Consequently 
I've decided to move over from Linux & NT4 to OS X fulltime. The dual G4 
is spec'ed and ready for my credit card, the iLamp is no good -- I do a 
lot of GFX and I need a display with a broader gamut than the TFT will 
provide...

Saying that tho, an iLamp will probably get added as a "lounge 
terminal", they're pretty cheap for the spec (well, compared to other 
Apple hardware anyway! ;-), although I'm gonna wait to see it in the 
flesh first. Something for the summer I think...

Anyway; G4 optimise away good sir...! I look forward to the results...

G


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