I am not familiar with the names, again, I am a VERY novice coder, have watched one tutorial, whilst going through the book 'invent with python' as well. -- View this message in context: http://pygame-users.25799.x6.nabble.com/Need-a-lot-of-help-with-virtual-board-game-tp1965p1982.html Sent from the pygame-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.