Re: [pygame] man oh man Java is painful

[Sean Wolfe <ether.joe@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah I'm an Android and C noob, but I've been a bit excited reading
about NDK and being able to use C instead of Java maybe. But from what
I've read it's not designed to replace java but rather provide
potential performance benefits in certain parts of an android app.

I mean to a certain extent I'm thinking, as far as learning Java for
android, if you can't beat em join em. And I dig the Android platform
more as far as the tablets themselves. And since I have to (and should
do, if I want to be a well rounded programmer) learn some compiled
languages, hell why not start with fortran. I mean Java.

I mean, it's all a learning adventure. It's just that coming from a
Python world where you can play around, take risks and have fune, the
heavyweight syntax is just an enthusiasm crusher. If I try anything
different Eclipse freakin explodes with complaints, then its off to
Java or Android documentation which scares the crap out of me, whereas
I find python.org pretty good reading actually.

Of course over time I will know more and there will be less crushing going on.

Preaching to the choir here I know but... I guess I'm in a ranting
mood. Thanks for listening.



On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Stuart Axon <stu.axon+pygame@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I guess for android it must be possible to do stuff with the NDK and C++ ...
> and if that works shedskin might be a possibility ..
>
> On 2 November 2011 15:31, Ian Mallett <geometrian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Curiously enough, I've recently been ruing Java's existence myself.  In
>> summary--it has syntax as bad as C, but is slower and more convoluted--not
>> to mention not as capable (pointer arithmetic, anyone?).  C# is basically
>> Java, except it's garbage collector sucks (Java's is actually very good),
>> and it's unportable.  C++ is a pain to learn, but it's definitely worth it.
>>  In my opinion it's the best compiled language.
>



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