Re: [school-discuss] Knoppix for Kids Beta

[Harry McGregor <micros@osef.org>]

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 10:25, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 22:16, Dave Prentice wrote:
> 
> >     You can also try right-clicking, then something like "Save Target
> > As" or whatever your browser gives you. I had trouble with the md5sum
> > on the iso image from
> > http://campus.azintl.edu/~micros/knoppix.release.iso, and wound up
> > having to go to
> > http://www.swfo.arizona.edu/~hmcgregor/knoppix.release.iso to get the
> > proper md5.
> 
> It is a little bid strange here.  Sometimes I did the same by right
> clicking the URL.  But this time right-click only popup 2 options "open
> link in browser" and "copy link location"  I am running Ximian
> Evolution.

Ahh, that is the problem... We were trying to figure out the problem as
if it was in a web browser.

The servers are both setup that the default mime type is "text", which
your browerser will try and render.

If you highlight the text of the url, and go to edit copy, and then
bring up a terminal window, type "wget " and then either right click of
center click (or both buttons if you only have two), and it should paste
the URL for you, after that hit enter.

> I met this kind of difficulty before without a solution.  I think there
> is some problem encountered on server side.  
> 
> I did following test;
> 
> 1) clinking the URL to open the ISO image
> 2) from the URL  "http://campus.azintl.edu/~micros/knoppix.release.iso";
> deleted "knoppix.release.iso" and "ENTER"
> 3) it started "Index of /~micros" page.  Clinking "knoppix.release.iso"
> on this page also opened the ISO image file
> 4) right clicked "knoppix.release.iso" and selected "Save Link Target
> As"
> 5) then it started to download the ISO image..
> 6) After about 15-20 minutes, it finished saying download complete.  But
> the ISO image file has only about 60MB in size.

Web browsers are really bad at downloading large files, give wget a
shot.

> I tried several times with the same result. 
> 
> 
> >     I also have the iso mirrored at
> > www.originsresource.org/downloados.htm. I have a DSL connection, so I
> > have no idea how fast the throughput might be. If you use my site,
> > please email me back to let me the kb/sec you get.
> 
> I tried clicking "KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-05-20-EN.iso" on the website but
> also opening the file.  Then I tried with right click method and it
> started to download.  The speed is only about 21~23 kb/sec.  It need
> about 8 hours to complete.

That is the original KNOPPIX and not OSEF's Knoppix for Kids.

That is not saying that KNOPPIX is not good, or very useful, it's just
not customized for kid/teacher/parent use. (I mean, does a student
really need nmap or nessus?).


			Harry

> B.Regards
> Stephen
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Liu <satimis@icare.com.hk>
> > To: schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net
> > <schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [school-discuss] Knoppix for Kids Beta
> > 
> > >Hi Roger,
> > >Thanks for your response.
> > >I still have no luck.  I tried by holding down "shift" key / 'CRTL"
> > key
> > >before clicking.  The browser (mozilla / konqueror) still opened the
> > ISO
> > >image.
> > >I will try wget later but I am not familiar with it.  Is it the
> > syntax;
> > ># wget http://campus.azintl.edu/~micros/knoppix.release.iso
> > >B.Regards
> > >Stephen
> > 
> > 
> 
>