Re: [seul-edu] Announcing the Tux Typing 0.9 Release

["Fyoozen" <peharp@ix.netcom.com>]

I agree 100%!
----- Original Message -----
From: Harry McGregor <micros@azstarnet.com>
To: <seul-edu@seul.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [seul-edu] Announcing the Tux Typing 0.9 Release


> On thing to keep in mind, while it's easy to attack M$, the way to win
> these debates is to bring up the benifits of _BOTH_ sides, fairly, and
> evenly.  I have several MS people I can run this by to make sure all
> statesments are 100% true, etc.
>
> Linux/OSS will win in the end since it's a better mouse trap, not be cause
> it's "Not M$".  Also keep in mind while on one level, SUN, IBM, etc are on
> our side, they also have their own plans for ASP based tech in education,
> that might or might not be interoperable...
>
> Harry
>
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Fyoozen wrote:
>
> > The new licensing scheme backed by UCITA (in MD and VA) and the DMCA and
the
> > actions that M$ is taking on software piracy will indeed figure quite
> > prominently into the picture. Cost of support and ownership are huge
issues.
> > With commercial options ranging from Terminal Services to individual
> > licenses, the average Joe will have to look towards alternative methods
of
> > production. We are only talking OS at this point. Wait until they want
> > apps!!
> >
> > Willy Gates is the king of cha-ching! It's going to come from somewhere!
I
> > am interested in seeing how XP will play with LILO. Wonder if they will
use
> > the NT or 2000 boot model?
> >
> > Anyway, back to the original topic, I intend to try Tux typing this
weekend.
> > I'll have my wife test it. She actually types and has used similar
> > commercial type products. I use four fingers and two thumbs trying to
ease
> > into it for the last 15-20 years.  ;-))
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jeff Nelson <jtnelson@emirates.net.ae>
> > To: <seul-edu@seul.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [seul-edu] Announcing the Tux Typing 0.9 Release
> >
> >
> > > I, for one, will be very interested in seeing your document.  I need
to
> > > convince the head of a nonprofit I work with that Linux is applicable
to
> > an
> > > educational project in Colombia.  He believes that MS solutions are
best,
> > but
> > > I think the sustainability issue is an important one, especially now
that
> > the
> > > new MS licensing schemes are going to remove the Colombians' ability
to
> > > pirate at will.
> > >
> > > It's small, but I have a presentation on the same topic at
> > > http://linux.innoved.org/linux-tesl/
> > >
> > > > Since my paper is basically a "Why Linux in Education?" paper, as
well
> > as a
> > > > "Here's how you do it!", I was pointed here by Karl and Roger. I
have
> > been
> > > > soaking up ideas and topics to add to the final outline. Which
should be
> > > > totally completed by next week. I have also had some assistance and
> > support
> > > > from Miguel De Icaza, and notes from when Eric Raymond spoke at
NoVaLUG.
> > > >
> > > > Mrs. Tim Bogardt is doing the translation of Miguel's original paper
for
> > > > me. I think we will have a good arsenal from which to select. I
intend
> > to
> > > > use this group as a sounding board and proof readers. The paper will
> > > > emphasize cost of ownership (long and short term), pluses in terms
of
> > > > educational value, and implementing a self supporting source for
> > > > educational software. I also hope to incorporate a "responsible
> > computing
> > > > in the community" section in the curriculum section.
> > >
> > > I can volunteer to do proofing.  (Heck, I'm an English teacher!)
> > >
> > > Jeff Nelson
> >
>
> --
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