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SEUL: Re: What's the diff to SEUL ?
> That's right and I see the need for it. I only want the prove if it's realy
> impossible to reach that goal with an existing distribution. You have
> to invest very much time to package the software to get the dependecies
> and so on, which is done in several distributions. It's best done in
> Debian's distribution, because their dependecies possibilities of their
> package manager. The largest lack there is their horrible installation
> program. So I think you can save much time in developing an perfect
> installation program. The new distributions of SEUL and e-Linux would consist
> of the complete debian package and two versions of the perfect installation
> program. And advertising is done by Debian.
I will be writing this up formally when I get the chance (argh, too much to
do!!!), but here the basic idea, with e-Linux added in:
SEUL (w/e-Linux help maybe) will take the existing Debian distrib (bo) and
strip it down to a "basic" distribution, i.e. kernel, sysvinit, *utils, XFree
libs, etc. Such a system will boot, but not do much interesting stuff at
all. This then would become the minimal "core" distribution.
Once this exists, SEUL and e-Linux would work on deciding on some fundamental
packages, then start building up (using existing Debian packages or
modifications thereof *whenever* *possible*) to a more complete distribution.
At a certain point, e-Linux and SEUL will start going their own ways, given
that e-Linux intends to use KDE (I still don't understand why).
Eventually we may see this "core" become the basis for other distributions,
possibly even Debian itself. Once this happens, what system a package is
built on is irrelevant, because it will work on *all* machine with the same
version of the core.
As far as installation and packager frontends, I think Debian, e-Linux, SEUL,
and any others should work *very* closely together. There is no point in
developing many different installers in say 4mo when we can take what exists,
combine our efforts, and develop the "end-all" of installers that works for
*all* the distributions, and do it in say 3mo.
There are *many* pieces of all three distributions that can and *should* be
done in collaboration. Any other method would be ludicrous. Put a few more
people on the team, possibly do a partial redesign if something already
exists, and you can develop a package configurable enough for everyone to use
I want cooperate with existing projects as much as possible, ideally with the
effect of enhancing both. That can't be done, though, unless all parties are
willing to rethink their project some if necessary. This is why SEUL will be
based on Debian instead of RedHat, as was originally decided. RedHat does
not offer the ability to coordinate and enhance both parties' projects.
Erik Walthinsen <email@example.com> - SEUL Project system architect
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