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Re: SEUL: Projects to look at/work with
> > Linux Interface Project: Designing a free widget set for use with Linux,
> > replacement for Motif, etc. This one's in coding stages, so someone better
> > contact them ASAP to find out what they have...
> This will be nice...
Assuming what they do is reasonable...
> > Berlin: A replacement windowing system, built on top of GGI, that promises
> > to be much better than X.
> Ok, what do you guys think of this one??? I looked through the pages
> and have strong mixed feelings. I've never been a huge fan of X, and
> would welcome something better. But what would this do to Linux? Now
> we'd have to worry about whether apps run under X or Berlin! It
> wouldn't be "cool" to install both, especially in SEUL. (For RedHat and
> the others, it might be fine...but for SEUL I think we want to keep this
> as consistent as possible. We may have to choose one or ther other!)
The solution would be a Xt emulation layer. Yeah, it'd be ugly, but it would
enable us to get everything transfered over without having to re-write
*everything* at once. That assumes, of course, that we decide to use Berlin.
> Also I looked through their site and couldn't find any good answers on
> how far along the project is. They have an alpha version of the
> registry (yuck....a potential disadvantage here also!)
Welllll.... This is something we will be needing eventually. Whether or not
this is the right one, or even the right fundamental concept, I couldn't tell
you. Be we will need some kind of system-wide configuration database.
> but I can't tell if they're close to releasing an alpha of the whole thing.
> In some parts of the page it refers to the GUI as "writen" implying past
> tense, but I didn't see any good evidence of something being about done.
> Also the last update to the page was in April. Is it dead?
I'll try to find out.
> A lot of this stuff makes me want to argue that SEUL should *not* be
> released this winter or sooner.
Released to the public, true. Released publicly for development/testing
purposes, well, that should be done as soon as we have a system that boots
and does anything. A lot of projects out there (like Berlin) keep
development private until some specific stage. I don't like that idea,
because it limits the ability of people to look at the code and possibly
contribute.
> I think we should aim for a longer term strategy, releasing SEUL after we
> code *all* necessary parts to make it a good alternative to M$.
If we wait for that, it'll be 2000 before the public sees it. Our long term
strategy should be to get a stable product into the public view ASAP (but
without rushing/crippling the thing), which will generate market pressure, as
well as bring in new developers and projects.
This is what the marketing group will be for. We need someone to head up
that group. Volunteers?
> As an added bonus, most of these projects should be completed by the middle
> of next year and could be included.
I wouldn't be so sure of that... But then, that's why we need people to work
with these projects and find out what their status is, what their ETA is, etc.
Erik Walthinsen - Programmer, webmaster, 3D artist, etc. __
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