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Re: [tor-relays] Tor and Freenode

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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor and Freenode
From: Markus Hitter <mah@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:46:48 +0100
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Am 24.01.2015 um 16:21 schrieb Lukas Erlacher:
> Your idealism is noble, but it isn't going to work that way. IRC
> networks aren't going to open up to Tor more than Freenode already
> does, for the simple reasons that it makes controlling trolls and
> spammers absolutely impossible.

Being connected anonymously doesn't mean this connection has to be without authentication. For example, it should be possible to request a NickServ login after connecting and allowing to register a nick, but before entering a room. Without a room there's not much to spam.

It should also be possible to allow connections from exit relays with SASL authentication. Not as good as the above plan, still much better than what we have now.

Nerds are the typical kind of persons predestined to run relays as early adopters and are also the typical population on Freenode. Similar for many other IRC nodes. These two _have_ to match to make Tor popular.

> You should probably run a middle relay until you've learned more
> about this.

What else do I have to "learn"? Using Freenode and running an exit relay don't match, the technical details are secondary. At very least Freenode should be honest and state that they do not welcome anonymous connections and as such make their "welcome to Tor" pointless. I hate marketing speech obfuscating the truth.


Markus

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