Thus spake Andy Isaacson (adi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx): > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:10:48PM +0200, Rejo Zenger wrote: > > > There are at least two cases where the exit operator has been > > > slapped with a 'national security' gag order and cannot talk about > > > the case. > > > > These two are both German cases? - if you are allowed to elaborate on > > that. > > I have no personal knowledge about the cases at hand, but "national > security gag order" sounds like a USA NSL: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letter I would also like to take this opportunity to display my "I have not received an NSL" card. I think it's still legal to do *that*, right? ;) But who knows about the upstream ISP(s) or the random stool duster on shift at the datacenter that day... To be fair, it sounded like there was a possibility the NSL might have been more like "WTF just happened? Was that really a Tor node?" But who knows. It could have been "Give me dem keys, or else!" kind of thing. My vote would be "time for new keys" in that case. Maybe we should get a legal opinion on if these things can actually be arbitrarily coercive in nature. "Give me your key. Also, keep using it. Also, tell your mother you hate her and wish she was dead." Does the madness ever end? -- Mike Perry
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