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RE: gEDA-user: strange build failure


If all you have available is a Windows box there is an easy solution to this: grab a free copy of VMWare, find one of the many images of Fedora for VMWare on the net and download it. Run your VMWare Fedora image on your Windows box and go ahead and install gEDA on the VMWare image. It's simple, painless and works well. That's how I do it here. Performance is good with a relatively decent machine(2GHz+ machine).

You can also install cygwin under windows and install gEDA under cygwin. I believe there are a multitude of problems with this arrangement so you will have to check docs.

It would be great if there was a native Windows port of gEDA. However doing this would be a substantial effort and I would imagine most users would want to see new efforts put into new features rather than a whole new port. And it appears most if not all of the developers for gEDA are developers concentrating on the Linux platform. Thus you aren't likely to get the current group to put any effort into a Windows port. Perhaps we can pull a new group of developers in from the Windows world to work on the port(highly unlikely, I am a Windows developer and I have zero desire to put any effort into this knowing the magnitude of the effort).

A live CD version of gEDA would also be a welcomed addition. Something like Knoppix with gEDA installed. That would be as painless as it gets. Forgive my stupidity if this already exists.




From: "Adrian Nania" <Adrian.Nania@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: gEDA user mailing list <geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "gEDA user mailing list" <geda-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: gEDA-user: strange build failure Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:36:29 -0800

I do believe for more than 98% of people working with electronic
components it is not possible to install and use the latest gEDA
version. The endless compiling errors and flavor dependencies are
unbelievable. Yeah, we can always google around and after many hard
working weeks have an installation method working for just a few days
before some "justified" changes in name or settings.

On the other hand, many times we do not have access to a Linux box.
Windows is unfortunately or not the single available desktop in many
places. Now, I do not believe Windows users are jerks. Usually they are
forced to use Windows.

It is quite normal to end up with many "jerks" when you open your
product to a few thousands more people. Just ignore them because for
each jerk speaking to you are 1.000 good people on your side.

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: geda-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geda-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ales Hvezda
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:23 PM
To: gEDA user mailing list
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: strange build failure

Hi,

[snip]
>It is possible for some good Samaritan to compile for windows and make
>available all the updated gEDA packages?
>

I've had the "make the Windows port available" discussion many many
times (both virtually and in person).  Just this last week I was talking
to another OSS developer (for a totally different program and
*significantly* (100x to 1000x) larger user base) and he stated that the
moment they released a Windows binary: the whining, the complaining,
cluelessness, and general jerk behavior increased *a lot*.

Right now I am absolutely thrilled with the quality of the users and
discussions on the mailing lists and I have no intention of crashing a
good thing.

								-Ales



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