Re: gEDA-user: Usage vs. distribution of symbols

["John Luciani" <jluciani@xxxxxxxxx>]

> So that the footprints are unusable for Ronja?

You are distributing the packages for free. This meets the intent and
terms of the license. A developer is free to use the symbol in
any system, other than a distribution system, without restriction.

> Or could someone whitewash the symbols' licence by putting them on a
> huge board (which is a design, or at least add some piece of working
> electronic circuitry to it so it can be considered a design) and then
> licencing the design formally under GFDL/GPL and then extracting the
> symbols using the buffer and finally putting all the symbols into PCB
> distro tarball?

The distro tarball is a distribution no matter how many times you
"launder" the symbols.

> If John changes his licence to fix this it shouldn't have an effect
> because he already released the symbols under the old licence.

You would still fail to meet the intent of the license.

> Or John could you licence your collection under GFDL?

No.

(* jcl *)

On 2/20/06, Karel Kulhavy <clock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 09:47:13PM -0500, John Luciani wrote:
> > Karel,
> >
> > Distribution is a usage that is restricted. The restriction is
> > that the distribution be performed without fee.
> > To meet the intent of the version 0.1 license the distribution would have
> > to be released using a license with the same restriction.
> >
> > You are correct that this should be stated clearly in the license.
> > I will be making updates within the next few weeks and will update
> > the license wording.
> >
> > Here is a draft of the new wording ---
> >
> > Permission is granted to distribute these symbols verbatim,
> > individually or in a collection, provided that (1) no fee is charged
> > and (2) the individual symbol or symbol collection is licensed under
> > terms identical to this one.
> >
> > Permission is granted to make and distribute modified versions of
> > these symbols individually or in a collection under the conditions for
> > verbatim distribution, provided that the entire resulting distribution
> > is released with license terms identical to this one.
>
> So that the footprints are unusable for Ronja? I need to have copy of the
> footprint in the packages/ directory of gEDA. Because someone may delete
> the footprint during changes and replace it with a different one
> from your collection (for example smaller electrolytic capacitor) and
> then regenerate the schematic. Wanting the developer to download the
> symbol from Internet every time is not appropriate.
>
> Or could someone whitewash the symbols' licence by putting them on a
> huge board (which is a design, or at least add some piece of working
> electronic circuitry to it so it can be considered a design) and then
> licencing the design formally under GFDL/GPL and then extracting the
> symbols using the buffer and finally putting all the symbols into PCB
> distro tarball?
>
> If John changes his licence to fix this it shouldn't have an effect
> because he already released the symbols under the old licence.
>
> Or John could you licence your collection under GFDL?
>
> CL<
> >
> > (* jcl *)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/19/06, Karel Kulhavy <clock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hello John
> > >
> > > My Ronja project is under GFDL licence. If I take all your symbols and
> > > place them here:
> > > http://ronja-svn.wservices.ch/cvs/browser/trunk/schematics/packages/
> > > is it considered usage or distribution? The directory is used by
> > > gsch2pcb to generate PCBs from schematics in Ronja, but only at design
> > > or modifications time, not at compile time.
> > >
> > > Your "No-Fee Symbol License Version 0.1" says that the symbols can be
> > > distributed if it's done noncommercially (the distribution of Ronja
> > > sources is noncommercial - everyone can download it for free), but
> > > doesn't require the distribution to be done under the same licence, so
> > > can it be GFDL?
> > >
> > > CL<
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.luciani.org
>


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