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Re: gEDA-user: Native Mac OS X?




On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:

On Mar 5, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Steven Michalske wrote:
Ahhh... OK, I get it. Yes, my build brings up the X server. But other than the start-up time, that doesn't bother me. X11 is preinstalled as of 10.6 (or maybe 10.5, I forget which) so the hassle factor is pretty minimal.

10.6 seems to define a $DISPLAY environment variable in a way that makes it a hook to a launcher that brings up X11.app on demand.

This feature existed in Leopard as well, but many folks had set DISPLAY in their profiles and overrode the launcher.

In 10.5 and beyond you want to not set DISPLAY in your profile.

"Feature"? This isn't how X works, it's not how X EVER worked, and it's not how X is SUPPOSED to work. Wow I wonder what they were smoking when they did this.


My statement was that you as a user should not override the setting that the computer configured for you.

If you misread that as "In OSX we don't use the DISPLAY variable at all", then ignore the rest. If you don't use leopard or snow leopard, then go use it for a month, and then complain with the integration of SSH and X11 as niceties for power users.

Otherwise, please elaborate on the misfeature It might be a bug; then I'll file a report for you.

10.5 and beyond add a launch agent that sets your DISPLAY environment variable to a X11 helper. This helper points to X11 on you mac so that you get seamless integration of launching X11 apps from your terminal. Are you saying that I must override what the terminal did and manually launch X11 to use it properly?

When I SSH in to a computer the helper doesn't set the DISPLAY variable, SSH sets it on the remote computer. The helper only sets DISPLAY for you when it is required to make X11 work seamlessly.

How is this a bad thing, letting my computer that understands the rules for using X11 as a foreign window manager in it's own window managing environment?

Steve


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