Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad (was: rant: pcb print from command line)

[Ales Hvezda <ahvezda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

[snip]
>So how do we explicitly get that consensus? Do we need a concrete
>proposal to "vote" or otherwise express opinion on? Does anyone
>strongly object if I try to write that?

I think the discussion should be more along the lines of:

1) Leave gEDA (that includes gaf, pcb, and gerbv) split between two
   private servers (seul.org and gpleda.org both privately funded).

	-or-

2) Move _all_ the projects project data elsewhere, like to SF or
   Launchpad.

On a related note, there have been grumblings about the way things
currently are, as evident by a fairly recent irc conversation (names
removed and key statements cherry-picked):

	"ATM Ales is a single point of failure"
	"I'm concerned actually about Ales being a single point failure"
	"problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help
	  pay for a few months, then no more"
	"so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably
	  Ales paying for it out of pocket"

I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a "single point of 
failure", however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*,
time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work.

For the record: getting gaf, pcb, and gerbv all in once place was a
ton of work and was no picnic.  I would be happy to provide a tarball
of everything (it'll be big) and I don't want duplication of data, so
if things are migrated away from gpleda.org, I would be happy to turn
those services off.

If you can't tell, I don't see the value of moving just the trackers
from one SF-like service to another, just because we don't like the
user interface.  However, moving all the data to SF or Launchpad, that
has my vote.

And all the data includes:
	
	* webpage (though I own the domains for a few more years)
	* released files (current and historical)
	* git repositories
	* mailing lists
	* mailing list archives (also huge)
	* bug trackers
	* wiki

								-Ales



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