Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

[Russell Shaw <rjshaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> On 17/05/2011, John Doty<jpd@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>
>> On May 17, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Most guis hide what they do. I believe in them showing the commands they
>>> send internally as a script would (or atleast have the option to show
>>> that) so the user can paste the commands into an external file if
>>> needed.
>>
>> I've done GUIs that wrap scripts, but it only works in very simple,
>> shallow cases. An API that supports GUI well is very different from an API
>> that supports scripting well.
>>
>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/
>> jpd@xxxxxxxxx

On 18/05/11 04:57, Eduardo Costa wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> That's not true at all John. Have you ever heard/seen a program called Alias
> Wavefront Maya? It used to be from Silicon Graphics, but they sold it to
> Autodesk a couple of years ago.
>
> A program for 3D CGI which has quite an innovative popup menu system with
> something called hotboxes and cardinal menus (the one shown bellow). 200%
> productive, and much better than anyother existing/deployed nowadays:
>
> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/504/polygonquickmenunothingrx6.jpg/
>
> and driven from MEL (sort of an intepreted c languaje they roled for the
> purpose of scripting such a huge program). Believe me, you wouldn't even
> think it is scripted because they didn't abuse of it, yet it lets such menu
> system be 10 times more powerful!
>
> I do share many of your points Russell, while I'm happy (still) using geda.
> It seems to me is going somewhere I don't really want to be in a future.
>
> I've got almost done a c-library I wrote implementing this menu systems for
> my own programs. Haven't looked at it for a time, but it could work with gtk
> or other toolkits as long as they allow low level event handling.
>
> Anyways, if you are really going for it, and are going to use old'good c,
> I'll be pleased to hear your thoughts and cooperate.

Hi,
I'm a gtk hater, and am open to new widget toolkit user interface paradigms,
even if it means writing new widgets or toolkits from scratch (which i've done
before).

I found the useability of a 20yo unix box sch/pcb cad program far better
in certain ways than current cad packages. It involved the left hand and
an external multi-button "puck" device in most of the screen-panning
operations, leading to much less mouse-finger fatigue. It made all the
current Windows cad packages look like kiddies toys by comparison.


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