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Re: gEDA-user: Languages etc

Dang it... Ok I wasn't dishing the PCB team... I have sent them pizza money occasionaly for the last year or so. The pcb team gets donations through sourceforge.net If you build a comercial board from PCB then you better damn well drop a few bucks in their hat.

Steve Meier


Stephen Meier wrote:

I tried to do this the humerous way. Now I will try a second way. The person writting the code gets to deside the language/tools. It is a really simple rule. If you think your favorite tool is the best way, well cool, prove it by doing it. ya know.. walk the talk. In general, I have a hudge amount of apprectiation for Arles, Dan, DJ, Stuart, Steve, Stuart and others. They have written a lot of usefull code. It might not be written with the best language. It might not be of the best style. But it works and it is very usefull. For those of this group, not including the pcb team, can you find a way to accept donations? I would love to send each of you enough cash to take your significant other out to a good resteraunt.

Again... Thanks for the code,

Steve Meier


Marvin Dickens wrote:

On Friday 23 September 2005 05:33 pm, Dan McMahill wrote:



not to fan the flames, but the reality is that while there are JVM's
available for some platforms, java simply isn't as widely ported as C.
In fact, I've been unable to get gcc-java, blackdown, kaffe, suns java,
etc to even build on my alpha. So even if there were 100% agreement
that java is the best and a desire for massive rewrite, it's simply not
an option for some of us.



Regardless of how you look at it, Java is a closed platform. Further, people keep referring to it as " Platform Independent". Java is not an application
or program that is platform independent - Java is a platform. That is why
a virtual machine is needed to execute the code on every system known
to man. The one exception is a true java machine which executes java natively.
As for my number one reason for not liking it:

It is a proprietary commercial platform in the same vein as MS windows.
It's a closed project because the license says that it is.
I'll stop here or I'll write a diatribe on the woes of Java.


Regards


Marvin