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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA 1.2.0, opamp-1.sym pin numbers?



On Sunday 23 September 2007 21:13:40 Andy Peters wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Dan McMahill wrote:
> > Peter Clifton wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 20:35 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote:
> >>> I think that opamp-1.sym will not be compatible with SOT23-5
> >>> footprints
> >>> -- in TI datasheet of OPA656 pin 1 is output for SOT23 package.
> >>> Maybe
> >>> opamp-1.sym is compatible with SC70-5 configuration, which I have
> >>> newer
> >>> seen.
> >>>
> >>> Or opamp-1.sym and opamp-2.sym are only abstract representations
> >>> of an
> >>> OpAmp, without any relationship to a concrete footprint?
> >>>
> >>> In any case, there seems to be no symbol in gEDA related to an
> >>> ordinary
> >>> OpAmp in DIP8 (or SO8) package.
> >>>
> >>> This may look very strange for new gEDA/pcb users.
> >>
> >> There are various "heavy" symbols, such as lm741-1.sym.
> >>
> >> It is a well known problem though, the mapping between a light symbol
> >> and a real package is not something which is easily solved.
> >
> > which is why I'm in favor of a heavy symbol generator for op-amps like
> > the one I demonstrated for bipolar transistors.  You use a small
> > set of
> > symbols and then have a text file which is essentially a spread sheet
> > that for each actual part number (the full vendor part number
> > including
> > package code) you give the mapping from symbol pin to the footprint
> > pin
> > # as well as list the actual footprint.  Its pretty simple, you don't
> > have to continually wonder if you have the right footprint or right
> > pinout, and you only have to maintain a small number of graphical
> > symbols.  Adding new part number is then a snap.
> >
> > I'm more and more convinced it is the way to go.
>
> This is one MAJOR reason to use heavy symbols.
>
> I'd rather select a part number from a library, knowing that it
> always has the correct footprint and vendor part number (or numbers)
> every time, rather than go through an intermediate step to match ALL
> parts on the schematic with the proper footprints.  That's just too
> easy to screw up.
>

Doesn't the "simple symbol + spreadsheet + algorithm = tons of 'virtual' 
symbols" mechanism provide exactly that functionality in a manner which is 
very easy to maintain?

Peter


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