Re: Many Vietnamese exit-nodes: what does it mean?

[James Brown <jbrownfirst@xxxxxxxxx>]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Roger Dingledine wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:30:36AM +0300, James Brown wrote:
>> Last weeks I see that my Tor client often connects with exit-nodes
>> having Vietnamese ip-addresses.
> 
> Often?
> 
> Looking at
> http://trunk.torstatus.kgprog.com/index.php?SR=CountryCode&SO=Desc
> I see two relays in Vietnam. Only one -- hanhphuc -- is of much
> consequence. Neither of them are exit relays. So I would expect that
> you would never see a Vietnamese IP address as your exit relay.
> 
> Perhaps you are confused about what country the IP addresses are
> associated with?

I think my PC connect with nodes works not as exit. I see the above
through tcpdump etc.
ooooops, sorry, I did mistake in the name of the topic, you are right.
> 
> ...Or perhaps I am? :) (Check out how many nodes on that site are
> allegedly affiliated with Namibia, to get a sense of how effective geoip
> db's are these days.)
> 
>> I think that Vietnam is a backward country with very poor people.
>> Can that fact mean that this nodes works under control of Russian
>> security services?
> 
> I think that's a pretty big leap. Why not first suspect that the
> several-dozen relays in Russia are operated by Russian intelligence?
> 
> More generally, I think the odds are better that relays (both in Russia
> and in Vietnam if we were to get some) are run by good people, and
> telephone companies / country-wide networks are monitored by intelligence
> services. And then comes the question of where your destination website
> is and who's watching *it*. Things get complex quickly.
> 
>> P.S. I heard that Putin's secret police mounted many tor-nodes for
>> unintelligible purposes.
> 
> I'd be surprised. Why run a Tor relay of your own when you can just
> watch somebody else's?
> 
> I guess it's hard to answer any theory that includes the phrase
> "unintelligible purposes". :)
> 
> --Roger
> 
> ***********************************************************************
> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx with
> unsubscribe or-talk    in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
> 

I think they mounted that nodes for examining the Tor for searching
vulnerabilities and it is very intresting for me what is their results.
They are a pseudo-global observer, that needs take into account.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEYEARECAAYFAkszMxAACgkQV59uvM2EEnfHjwCeKRbZ+oYgwF6ai6HnAq9mC/3U
oIIAn1Pqb8sgJahjhXZxG9c48MBUDQLD
=feUw
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
***********************************************************************
To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx with
unsubscribe or-talk    in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/