Re: [tor-talk] GeoIP A1 classification

[Karsten Loesing <karsten@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 2/11/13 11:28 PM, grarpamp wrote:
>>> least cause them to distribute a version of their datasets
>>> that retain the original locations.
>>
>> I asked their (first-level) support a few months ago, and they said
>> they're considering providing data sets without A1 codes some time this
>> year.
> 
> Any wiki'ers on the list want to wiki things like this with campaign and
> followup tasks? If you can write your congress/mp from a task list, why
> not your favorite Tor unfriendly website, etc.
> 
>> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/blob/HEAD:/src/config/deanonymind.py
>> https://gitweb.torproject.org/onionoo.git/blob/HEAD:/geoip/deanonymind.py
> 
> Sure, those are fixes for Tor et al's use. I was more addressing the
> "proxies bad, let's put them in an A1" issue that affects everyone
> else.

If we want to fix this for other people, maybe somebody should take the
scripts above and produce a "FreeMind" database for everyone else to
use.  I don't have the time to start this or keep it running, but I'm
happy to contribute or discuss as time permits.

> Some of the manual substitutions could be take from the descriptors,
> if people didn't enter silly/inaccurate CC codes in them.

If there are wrong substitutions, contacting relay operators to get more
data points is a fine option.  But we should confirm reports using RIR
delegations, traceroute, etc.

Best,
Karsten


>> If I could spend more time on this topic, I wouldn't want to visit
>> MaxMind headquarters
> 
> I meant to say that there are at least two major IP location companies,
> and a few others. Just say hi at the next geolocation conference ;)
> 
> I do suggest presenting at the next NANOG conference. That would
> cover a lot of the network space, make introductions, etc.
> 
>> but I'd want to further extend Jake's blockfinder
>> and come up with our own free GeoIP database:
>> https://github.com/ioerror/blockfinder
> 
> Years ago I thought there were some crowdsourced IP location
> projects. While not being commercial where ISP's would
> perhaps be more inclined to input their provisioning tables, they
> covered userland's knowledge and self-submittals pretty good.
> These projects have to still exist?
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