Re: [tor-talk] German Laywer Sasse & Partner call to order / German Abmahnung

[T F <torabused@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Manu,

Thank you!

The Exit Policy was my fault, there was accept *:* this is truly bad.

I corrected this exit-policy already to the only allowing Ports *:22, *:80,
*:81, *:82, *:443, *:8080 and reject the rest.

But in the time of the P2P Lawsuit the policy was unset.

best regardes


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Manuel Brandlhuber <manu@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The law you are looking for is $8 Telemediengesetz
> (https://openjur.de/g/tmg/8.html)
>
> Do you have an reduced exit policy on your server as shown in
> https://blog.torproject.org/running-exit-node?
>
>
> LG
> manu
>
> > Hey Juha,
> >
> > thank you very much!
> >
> > I am already searching for that part of the German Law. ^^
> > I cut my letter really short now and wait for the law that legitimate Tor
> > under German Law.
> >
> > Thank you Very much for your words. :-)
> >
> > I didn't sleep well this nite :( but I am working to feel much better if
> I
> > send them this letter. ^.^
> >
> > best regardes
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Nurmi, Juha <juha.nurmi@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Sure we will help you and do not worry.
> >>
> >> First of all, this is a civil case and they just try to scare you from
> >> downloading with Bittorrent. Because you are not doing that and are able
> >> to
> >> tell them about this they will eventually leave you alone.
> >>
> >> However, do not write anything unrelated technical or "not 100% proof of
> >> my
> >> guilt". Instead, you need to give a very simple and short answer to
> >> them,
> >> including 1) you have not ever used Bittorrent and have not downloaded
> >> anything 2) you are running Tor exit node which is an Internet router
> >> that
> >> is transferring third party traffic and you do not know the end users
> >> nor
> >> have any logs 3) show them that this Tor exit node is working under the
> >> law
> >> of German (I am not from German but I know that this law is there
> >> somewhere. Hopefully, someone will post it soon).
> >>
> >> Further, this might be useful to know:
> >> http://falsecolour.com/aw/sasse/sasse.html
> >>
> >> Relax :)
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Juha Nurmi
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:03 PM, T F <torabused@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hey Leo,
> >> >
> >> > thank you very much! I already read that Templates, but there is
> >> nothing
> >> > about P2P Traffic.
> >> > I already tried to setup a letter for the lawyer which has
> >> corresponding
> >> > information about the Tor Exit Node. But I am not really concerned
> >> about
> >> > telling him that Information!!! He is in the offending Position, I do
> >> not
> >> > know if it is a good Idea to tell him too much about my activity! He
> >> finds
> >> > a way to get me down.
> >> >
> >> > I am currently thinking about, telling him that the Guardly Ltd. did a
> >> big
> >> > misstake in sorting my IP-Adress out of their traffic. I also told
> >> them
> >> > that P2P is only working when yourself is offering Upload and Download
> >> at
> >> > the same time. If you want an IPAdress of an Torrent Client you have
> >> to
> >> > download the File yourself and then you offer the first bit you
> >> downloaded
> >> > by yourself and they are also guilty by detecting others, they support
> >> the
> >> > sharing of files by their work. No one can proof this, but they also
> >> could
> >> > not 100% proof my guilty alone with the IP-Adress and some Data they
> >> > captured. ^^
> >> >
> >> > Also my Tor Exit Node only allows 10 MB in one session, so the P2P
> >> user
> >> get
> >> > cut off after 10 MB and is relayd to another Exit node. I never could
> >> offer
> >> > the whole File transfare about my own one node tor exit.
> >> >
> >> > Can someone proof my way of arguments.
> >> >
> >> > thank you
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Leo Unglaub <leo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hey,
> >> > >
> >> > > On 02/06/2014 12:03 PM, T F wrote:
> >> > > > I need arguments for the Answer to the Laywer and need some
> >> support
> >> > from
> >> > > > the Tor Community. Cause I am and feel not guilty! I haven't done
> >> > > something
> >> > > > wrong in my view, but I am the owner of my Internet Accesspoint
> >> and
> >> in
> >> > > > Germany I am personally responsible for any abuses which causes
> >> from
> >> my
> >> > > > Internet Access!
> >> > >
> >> > > there are some templates you can use in this case. They are
> >> documented
> >> > > here:
> >> > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorAbuseTemplates
> >> > >
> >> > > Greetings
> >> > > Leo
> >> > >
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