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Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing???
On 5/20/2011 6:45 AM, Curious Kid wrote:
There's no such thing as a free lunch. FYI - for the all - trusting
users of "free" email providers, don't give your real information.
There's no upside & lots of potential very bad down side. As far as the
relatively new practice of Goggle & ? others ? asking for a cell # in
some cases to verify your identity, any data they ask for as backup
security measures (like security questions), or a phone # is stored in a
data base. Other than them getting a phone # for marketing purposes,
having additional security questions would probably provide sufficient
security if they suspect "suspicious behavior" before one actually logs
in. If someone actually gains access to your acct, then a provider
having a phone # is irrelevant (unless they show it in your acct). If
the phone # is shown in acct settings (don't know - never gave them
one), hackers gaining access now have that.
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 10:17:02 AM
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing???
If yahoo is actually rejecting log-in attempts based on perceived
geographical information, what do they think that they are achieving?
I can speak for no one else... however I think that any provider of online
services that does this is foolish.
Do we think they are actually doing this? I've used my Yahoo account all over
The timing of this is suspect. They are now rolling out Yahoo! Mail Beta. To use
When you register we ask for information such as your name, email address,
birth date, gender, ZIP code, occupation, industry, and personal interests.
If hackers get in your acct, security is out the window. If they're
trying, but being asked for backup ID info, many types of info would
provide sufficient security. Their argument is probably, "the user has
to physically possess the (cell) phone to receive security related
correspondence from the provider." Maybe, but I imagine the real reason
is to get around the telemarketing "no call" laws. Once you have an
established "business relationship" w/ a company (by signing up for
their service & giving an address, valid phone #), technically they are
exempt from no - call telemarketing laws.
Security questions provide no marketing advantages for them. Note: I
never give "normal" answers to security questions. Oldest sibling's
name might be "krankcace," etc. If you put "lady gaga" as favorite
singer, you might deserve to have an acct hacked.:) Google, Yahoo,
etc., apparently believe it necessary to employ much greater security
techniques than banks, Fidelity, Vanguard, etc.
If users give Yahoo, Google (or services marketing through them) an SSN,
good luck. There's probably no end to amount of junk mail you'll
receive based on your credit scores.
some financial products and services we might also ask for your address, Social
Security number, and information about your assets.
Don't write anything in email that you wouldn't want the world to know,
unless 1st compose it outside of their websites & then encrypting the
file, before sending by email.
Yahoo! displays targeted advertisements based on personal information. ...
Yahoo! provides personally relevant product features, content, advertising,
spam and malware detection by analyzing your email. Some of these features and
advertising will be based on our understanding of the content and meaning of
your emails. For instance, we analyze email messages to identify key elements
of meaning and then categorize this information for immediate and * future * use.
Companies w/ these types of policies scan your friends' correspondence
with you, as well as yours. Don't write anything in "normal" email that
you wouldn't want the world to know. Why this practice is deemed legal
in some countries, don't know. By contrast, persons have been
prosecuted for "hacking" into their spouse's email.
By using the Services, you consent to allow Yahoo!âs automated systems to scan
and analyze all incoming and outgoing communications content sent and received
from your account... If you consent to this ATOS and communicate with
non-Yahoo! users using the Services, you are responsible for notifying those
users about this feature.
A lot of people correspond w/ doctors, lawyers by email. Do you really
want that type of info being "analyzed" (& info stored "for future
use")? There should be some "expectation of privacy" for email, but
there isn't. Unless you want to catch a cheating spouse - then you
might be prosecuted.
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