On 10/9/2013 8:00 PM, krishna e bera wrote:
> On 13-10-09 07:14 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
>> After manually adding prefs.js entries in 3.0a4, that were
suggested on
>> Tor project Trac to make it work, there's no change in being
unable to
>> connect to Startpage, Ixquick, DDG; often even Wikipedia -SSL &
Google.
>>
>> Could it be (for Startpage & Ixquick), they've suddenly become very
>> popular, due to lots of recent news about various "people" watching
>> everything? Maybe they're limiting Tor or other anonymous traffic to
>> keep servers open for regular users.
>>
>> No explanation for DDG, Wikipedia. Just that in regular Fx, can
connect
>> to all of them instantly.
>
> When you reinstalled or upgraded your TBB, did you remove the
directory
> first? Sometimes a clean install gets rid of strange glitches
leftover
> from in place upgrades.
>
I never install TBB over the top of old versions or use an old profile.
Since it's done the same thing (starting > a wk ago in 2.3.25-12),
now same exact thing in 2.3.25-13 & 3.0a4.
I can connect to Bing & Yahoo - in any TBB version I'm now trying.
I even have tabs open w/ the URLs already entered for Startpage,
Ixquick, Google & say Bing, Yahoo AND any usual site. Google doesn't
fail as much, but never had a problem w/ any of them before.
So when Startpage, et al. fail, I instantly load another site
(Mozilla.org, etc.) - which succeeds - using the same relay circuit.
I checked w/ the network map open to make sure circuits weren't
changing between the failures & successes.
One or 2x wouldn't mean anything, but I've repeated it dozens of
times over many days w/ very consistent results.
I also have Firefox open w/ the same site as TBB - say Startpage.
When they fail in TBB, I instantly load it in regular Fx & loads
every time. So the search sites' servers aren't overloaded - at least
for normal internet traffic.
For a bit, I wondered if my ISP was slowing connections to Tor
relays, but I don't have the TBB connection problem w/ most other
sites, so that can't be it. I'm just brain storming.
Thinking outside the box - what if I look at the problem from
opposite direction. Instead of thinking as a problem of "Startpage,
et al. not accepting Tor / TBB," look at it from a "Tor / TBB having
problems with these sites" stance (Startpage, et al.).
There's obviously SOME reason, but not typical - given all the
methods & versions I've used to rule out possibilities. Yahoo, Bing,
Amazon, Ebay searches - together w/ the nsa, *must* be blocking me
from other searches engines, forcing me to use them. Yeah, that must
be it.
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