Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: IP Banned for running a non-exit relay from home?

[stn <stn@xxxxxx>]

some weeks ago i asked daniel why he blocked tor traffic.  he sited SSH brute force, smtp and other abuse issues.  he's a sysadmin so i can understand the need to protect his networks.

thanks for brining in a higher resolution view here. 

hope your approach works or at least opens the door to communication with him.
he maintains a tor  list updated every 30 minutes so maybe addressing his specific concerns can help ?  i'd hate to see others blindly block from his lists.

he was polite and answered some basic networking questions about netBSD for me and that was about it.  he didn't answer me immediately either.  so straight to /dev/null ... not in my case at least.

he also doens't like anonymous proxies generally by the notice his site gives when attempting  to connect with tor if i've read it correctly.






On Sep 30, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Michael Wolf wrote:

> On 9/30/2014 2:26 AM, Virgil Griffith wrote:
>> Perhaps weirdly, this fellow does seem to know what he is doing.
>> 
>> On page, https://www.dan.me.uk/dnsbl
>> 
>> He explicitly offers a different list for blocking just exits.  The
>> only thing I can think of is to email a request that he block just
>> exists instead of overblocking all Tor nodes.
>> 
>> -V
>> 
> I sent a polite email to this individual several months ago regarding
> this exact issue.  The email was ignored.  The following was sent the
> email address listed on his site (me AT dan DOT me DOT uk):
> 
> 
>> Dear Daniel,
>> 
>> I noticed that your site blocks non-exit tor relays -- for example, my
>> own IP of 107.197.196.79.  As a fellow admin, I respect your right to
>> block anything you want.  However, I kindly request that you limit your
>> block to only exit relays.  There are may people around the world who
>> run middle relays from home, and it seems to serve no purpose to punish
>> them for trying to help other people 
>> 
>> Along those lines, if you would consider adding some warning or
>> explanation to the .tor.dan.me.uk blacklist (or even mentioning that it
>> shouldn't be used as a blacklist), it would be much appreciated.
>> Well-intentioned users around the world are being blocked from various
>> forums, retail sites, and government websites, despite never having
>> broken any rules.
>> 
>> Thank you for your time.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Michael Wolf
> 
> Perhaps enough similar emails will persuade him?  Or perhaps he
> /dev/null's anything with "tor" in it?
> 
> -- Mike
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