Okay, I think I have a workaround, if I don't .convert() any images, and modify the palettes from the surface itself, it seems to work fine, hopefully I can get unconverted surfaces to blit properly though, it seems that sprites have no issues blitting, its just plain surfaces which wont blit.
    <
corporalmustard@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
corporalmustard@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    > I actually have one, but I would like if it were possible to
    alter which
    > palette entries are used by pygame in real-time, what it seems
    happens when
    > I .convert() an image, it loses it's unique palette data and
    just uses the
    > basic pygame palette, but if I don't convert it, it makes it
    difficult to
    > blit images and adds extra performance issues which might be a
    problem
    > later.  The weird thing is that when I choose not to convert the
    images, it
    > seems to make no difference, the sprites just seem to use
    whatever indicies
    > they want anyway, is there some parameter in convert i dont know
    about, or
    > is it my display setup?
    >
    > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Thiago Chaves
    <
shundread@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
shundread@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    >>
    >> You need an image editor that gves you an easy way to keep track of
    >> the color index of your palettes. =)
    >>
    >> -Thiago
    >>
    >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM, John Anderson
    wrote:
    >> > yes, I have, unfortunatley that still doesnt mean I can
    specify where
    >> > the
    >> > colours are placed on even the sprite's palette.  For
    example, I have a
    >> > particular sprite with a slightly coloured outline, in the
    sprite's
    >> > palette,
    >> > entries from 0 - 15 are empty, and the outline is entry 16.     I'm not
    >> > even
    >> > sure where any of the other colours are, and that position
    might change
    >> > with
    >> > an excess of differently coloured sprites on screen, or
    worse, even
    >> > disappear entirely.  What I would like to do is have the
    palette fill
    >> > from
    >> > the bottom, or preferably from a specified index with new palette
    >> > entries
    >> > loaded from .gif files, rather than try and find a close
    approximate
    >> > colour
    >> > on the existing palette, is this possible to do without
    changing the
    >> > surface
    >> > implementation in pygame, or even SDL?
    >> >
    >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Thiago Chaves
    <mailto:
corporalmustard@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    >> >> > Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to force an 8-bit
    colour
    >> >> > sprite
    >> >> > to
    >> >> > use a very particular set of palette entries, like say,
    Sprite A uses
    >> >> > colour
    >> >> > indicies 0 - 16, and Sprite B uses 17 - 32.  As it stands,
    pygame
    >> >> > automatically assigns the colours in a sprite to the
    closest colour
    >> >> > on
    >> >> > the
    >> >> > main palette, meaning that it is very hard to predict
    which colours
    >> >> > are
    >> >> > where, and thus makes palette swapping a nightmare, is
    there any way
    >> >> > around
    >> >> > this?
    >> >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >
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