Re: [pygame] What's next for Pygame project?

RenÃ,

What aspects of being the lead developer & website maintainer give you enjoyment and pride?

And which parts of your roles are a bore or a nuisance to you?

I want to help you to find the job in the pygame community that gives you the most satisfaction and maximizes the impact of your talents. I do not want people to have unrealistic expectations of you though, and I want to maximize the impact of others' talents too.

Thanks,

Jason

On Monday, July 13, 2015 8:02 AM, RenÃ Dudfield <renesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

a few notes:

I have dropped the ball, but would like to finish the new website and get 1.9.2 out the door.
pygame_sdl2 seems the best choice going forward. For backward compat reasons, platform support, and C/asm code is needed. Many things have been put into SDL and related libs already, and this is a good way to go to share with other SDL projects.
seul.org has only been used for the mailing list for a number of years (7 years maybe?).
there are many other considerations which the new website addresses. Reddit integration, and bitbucket is done. Also, fun is important, as is integration with youtube and other ways of sharing work (like playing music can be done on the new website too).
I have done some thinking with Tom about how to do a migration with pygame_sdl2 to the pygame infrastructure.
nothing has stopped contributors for 1.9.2 being released. Many people have admin access to the bitbucket repo, and there has been some work been done.
... more to come.

best,

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Peter Shinners <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes! I'm motivated to make some changes sooner than later. If we really need to we can do some amount of reverting.

I think it's time to move off of the seul.org hosting Pygame has had since day 1. This was such a great choice back in 2004. But nowadays there's many options beyond sourceforge! As soon as we switch the DNS the pygame mailing list may be inaccessible.

I think the following things should be in order before switching.
1. New website with some amount of placeholders or redirects to the popular pages of the current site.
2. New forum or mailing option.
3. Get documentation on readthedocs.org?

On 07/12/2015 05:05 PM, Jason Marshall wrote:

RenÃ Dudfield, pygame's lead developer, has contributed significant Python, C and assembly code to pygame and has generously hosted the pygame.org website for years. We all should be thankful for that. However, RenÃ has not been active on this mailing list for almost 3 months. I guess that RenÃ has new priorities that have overtaken his interest in pygame, so I think that he should pass his leadership role to a new leader or leadership committee. (I'd prefer a leadership committee so that pygame's development would not be so susceptible to stalling if one person's priorities change.)

I have opinions on what the website's features should be and what pygame2 should be, but I don't think that we're ready to discuss those topics yet. We need active leadership first. To me, the pygame leader is the person (or people) in control of the official pygame.org website. Fortunately, Pete Shinners is the person who keeps the pygame.org name registered, so, even if RenÃ remains inactive, it would be technically possible Pete to redirect the pygame.org name to a new official website that would be under different leadership.

So here's the question for Pete:
Pete, if RenÃ remains uninvolved, would you be willing to point pygame.org at a new website?

Jason

PS. Sorry about the coup d'Ãtat suggestion, RenÃ.

On Friday, July 10, 2015 10:05 PM, Peter Shinners <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I haven't been paying close attention to Pygame, but it doesn't seem
controversial to say things have stalled. I haven't gotten much feedback
from Rene, but I'd like to give him time to put something together. Some
of the main things that may need help are:

* Getting 1.9.2 actually released
* Moving on to "Pygame 2", whatever that means
* Catch up on the Bitbucket pull requests
* Website replacement and love
* Migrate forum to Reddit (or community forum)

It seems there are still many great people involved with the Pygame
project. Perhaps I can help by getting those people the control they
need to make progress. I'm completely detached from things at this
point, so I don't have any context to jump in and try to change
anything. What parts of the project are going well these days?