Re: [pygame] I have a quick question... again...

[Charles Joseph Christie II <sonicbhoc@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday 16 June 2007 04:25:59 pm Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:27:37PM -0400, Charles Joseph Christie II wrote:
> > > I don't know about canonical, but PySpaceWar uses pure MVC.  I think; I
> > > never fully understood the "controller" part of it; my views are often
> > > also controllers.
> > >
> > > http://mg.pov.lt/pyspacewar/http://mg.pov.lt/pyspacewar/
>
> Gaah, obviously it should have been just http://mg.pov.lt/pyspacewar/
> Copying and pasting URLs from Firefox to GNOME Terminal sometimes has
> this strange delay that makes me thing I didn't press the middle mouse
> button, so I do it again.

No problem.

> > > There were two reasons for making the model independent of views:
> > >
> > >   * I wanted beautiful and understandable code
> > >   * I want to add network play at some undetermined point in the future
> >
> > I'll take a look at that. But when you say making the model independant
> > of views, what exactly do you mean?
>
> Model objects have no references to view objects.
>
> You can take the Python modules that implement the game model of
> PySpaceWar (world.py, game.py, ai.py) and build a different user
> interface without changing those modules.  Or build a network server
> that doesn't have any drawing code.  In theory.  I haven't attempted
> either, so it's possible that some flaw in the design may require
> modifications to the model classes to support alternative views.

That's exactly what I want to do when I build my games. I want this to be one 
of the first things I learn before going into a game.

> > What's unit testing? I wouldn't be surprised if I knew what it was, but
> > didn't know what it was called. I also wouldn't be surprised if I never
> > had the slightest idea what it was, either.
>
> It's the programming equivalent of putting your answers into the
> original math equation to make sure you haven't made any silly mistakes
> while solving the problem.

So I was right. :P

> Dive Into Python has two chapters devoted to unit testing (and
> test-first programming, which is a somewhat separate thing):
> http://www.diveintopython.org/unit_testing/index.html
> http://www.diveintopython.org/unit_testing/stage_1.html
>
> Marius Gedminas

Thanks, I had read parts of that book but skipped others. Now that I think 
about it, had I read the entire book, I might have come up with something 
better for my senior project game.