Re: [school-discuss] Example teacher request for OSS

["David M. Bucknell" <dbucknell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Sharon,

Webquests are not perfect, but _how_ their put on the Web (a la Web2) does not
change the need for a process of finding content and "pre-organizing"  it for
student-use in a pedagogically accepted way.  Blogs and wikis are great 
ways to
post them so they can be used and edited by others.  Personal search, chat and
other methods that do not make a permanent address at which they can be found
are less attractive, but since searching would be incorporated, I guess they
might be dependable ... that is, available.  I believe they are, by the way, a
true way of transforming learning, or at least a bridge to one, but with the
condition that they take the thinkquest model of requiring collaboration among
students in different physical locations and that the product of their 
learning
also be made available via the Web.

David

----- Message from sbetts@xxxxxxxxxx ---------
    Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:31:13 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Sharon Betts <sbetts@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: [school-discuss] Example teacher request for OSS
      To: schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


> In the "futuristic" group of technology integrators/educators,  Webquests
> are on the way out.  They are a good way to hook a teacher into using
> technology, but not a true method for actually transforming learning.  It
> seems that web 2.0 methods are taking over.
> Can we include some of these also:  blog, wiki, chat, personal search
> methods, etc.
> Sharon
>
> schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 at 10:14
> PM -0500 wrote:
> > Hi Daniel, What about Webquests?
> >
> >
> > ----- Message from dhhoward@xxxxxxxxxxx ---------
> >     Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:24:30 -0400
> >     From: Daniel Howard <dhhoward@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject: [school-discuss] Example teacher request for OSS
> >       To: schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > > Further to Sharon and Justin's comments about making it easy for
> > > teachers looking for open source software applications, here is a
> > > request from one of my 4th grade teachers.  I scanned the App Index, and
> > > the applications listed under geography look more like tools to build
> > > something or complex GIS apps, as opposed to applications for students
> > > to learn basic map skills, geography, or latitude and longitude.  Anyone
> > > have any suggestions?  Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > >
> > > 4^th grade team is wondering in regards to one of our IB units on
> > > geography--
> > >
> > > Does Linux edutainment have any programs for map skills, geography, or
> > > latitude and longitude, etc?
> > >
> > > Is there some open software we could download to Linux for this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Craig
> >
> >
> > ----- End message from dhhoward@xxxxxxxxxxx -----
> >
> > There are a few things that are not ideal about Webquests (such as the
> > fact that
> > they usually exhibit no understanding of licensing issues and do not push
> > Web-based collaboration enough), but they are a good start.
> >
> > I suggest Web quests because they are educationally sound in structure and
> > invite both the teacher and also the student into the process.  If the
> > Webquests or Web quests (both spellings are used) don't fit a problem
> > exactly,
> > they are a good starting point for making one's own.
> >
> > A problem with Web quests, of course, is that the sites to which they
> > link often
> > change, thus frustrating the teacher looking for a lesson at the last
> > minute.
> >
> > I have a lot to say about this but suffice it to say I quickly found
> > some things
> > your teachers could have found for themselves.  They need to realize that
> > this
> > is their problem, not just yours.
> >
> > Learning about latitude and longitude requires varioius lessons in which
> > students are given the opportunity to "get" the concept and apply it at
> > deeper
> > and deeper levels.
> >
> >
> > http://webquest.org
> > Search for latitude:
> > http://ballz.ababa.net/longitude/webquest.html
> >
> > Search on google for same:
> > http://education.usgs.gov/common/primary.htm
> >
> > http://www.emints.org/ethemes/resources/S00000486.shtml
> >
> > http://www.studyworksonline.com/cda/content/article/0,,EXP374_NAV2-5_SAR376,00.shtml
> >
> > http://ballz.ababa.net/longitude/webquest.html
> >
> > I also put together this page a few years ago for the broader issues of
> > working
> > without textbooks or desktop software:
> > http://www.rose-marie.ac.th/staticpages/index.php?page=20030118010448841
> >
> > This is just a start, obviously.  I think it's how planning should start.
> > I'm
> > not saying that someone couldn't create the equivalent of kstars and
> > lessons
> > based on it.  That would be great.  But as your teachers know, lesson
> > planning
> > is a constantly evolving process.  Even if you've taught the same thing
> > many
> > times, you revisit it and refine it.  Webquests fit that process.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > David Bucknell
> >
> >
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